From: military-radio-guy Full-Name: Dennis R Starks To: military radio collectors#1 Fcc: Sent Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 05:47:50 Subject: MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, Nov.11/98 Message-ID: <19981111.054654.18455.1.military-radio-guy@juno.com> X-Status: Sent X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, Nov.11/98 Index: ANNOUNCEMENTS; WHAT IS A VET? LIBRARY MANUALS; MEMBERS WRITE; TM11-227 1944 on CD Avail, R-648/ARR-41? ON THE COMMERCIAL FRONT; R-1289/PRR RECEIVER's, PRC-75's, HUMOR; *********************************************** ANNOUNCEMENTS; Sorry for my absence the last few days, I've had about 10k pounds of radio equipment to haul, sort, inventory, and warehouse, all with the weather reeking havoc. I'm still only about half done. I've changed my email around and opened a separate account for my Land Mobile Radio sales business. If you were on that list and did not receive the last flier(sent on Monday), send a message to and I'll get you back on. Dennis *********************************************** WHAT IS A VET? Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel: the soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity. Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept America safe wear no badge or emblem. You can't tell a vet just by looking. What is a vet? He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel. He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. She - or he - is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or didn't come back AT ALL. He is the Quantico drill instructor that has never seen combat - but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members into Marines, and teaching them to watch each other's backs. He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals with a prosthetic hand. He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals pass him by. He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep. He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the nightmares come. He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being, a person who offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice theirs. He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known. So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or were awarded. Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU". Remember November 11th is Veterans Day "It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protester to burn the flag." Father Denis Edward O'Brien, USMC *********************************************** LIBRARY MANUALS; Due to the time consumption of several on-going projects, I've put this off for awhile. I have the following manuals from my library headed off to the noted people. In keeping with my policey of loaning these manuals and Group member copy making, you may contact the person receiving these manuals and he will make you copies at cost. PLEASE, only one set of copies per member! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact Kevin Hough for the following at . (None of these manuals are very thick) PRT-4,PRR-9,Radio Receiving Set PRR-9,Radio Transmitting Set PRT-4,oper & org maint,TM11-5820-549-12,Oct.66 PRT-4A,PRR-9A,Radio Receiving Sets PRR-9,A,Radio Transmitting Sets PRT-4,A,oper & org maint, (C-4)TM11-5820-549-12,Sep.68 Radio Receiving Set PRR-9A,Radio Transmitting Set PRT-4A,di sup gen sup & depo maint, TM11-5820-549-35, April 1968 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact Dave Sundhiemer for the following at . (Also a rather thin manual) PP-1175A/SR,Power Supply,Technical manual,Navships 95740,Jan.64 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact Ed Guzick for the following at . (86 pages) SCR-585(BC-721),Radio Set SCR-585,A,operation & maint,T.O.08-16-186 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave has had these for awhile, it may be too late to get your name in the hat, but it won't hurt to try. AVR-15, Instr. Man. for Operation and Maintenance of Beacon Receiver Model AVR-15, 15-A. T.O.No. 08045-17, July 1944. AVR-20, Handbook Operation and Maintnenance Instructions. Transmitter AVT-112, Receiver AVR-20 and AVR-20A, Antenna System AVA-120. T.O. No. 16-45-15, July 1944. Aircraft Communication Equipment Transmitter Model AVT-15 or Model AVT-15A, Receiver Model AVR-20A, Antenna System Model AVA-120. RCA Manufacturing Company Inc. 1942. AVT-15, Instruction Manual for Operation and Maintenance of Transmitter Model AVT-15, 15-A. T.O.No. 16-45-16, Nov. 1944 Airborne Radio Equipment Handbook, Signal Section Air Service Command. April 1943 All of these are rather thin manuals except the last one which is a MUST for ALL you aircraft nuts! It details all the radio equipment of the time, what aircraft each was installed in and where, it include pictures of the equipment and aircraft, operational parameters, system component list and much more. Don't miss out on this chance, this is a VERY RARE manual. It's not thin, and it won't be cheep to repo, but it will be worth it! Contact Dave at Did I forget anybody? Dennis *********************************************** MEMBERS WRITE; Denis, I don't think I have laughed so hard for so long in some time. Can not help but wonder if this was about Brian Scace and the Liberty ship John Y Brown or was it something from Kevin Kuzel's time in the Navy. The captain of the ship must have been Cdr McHale. The closest to that story was my father's tale of the entire ships crew getting drunk in town. Was a mechant marine ship back in the 1920's. Bill Howard ed) I'd sooner think Brain, a Marine runnin a boat! Kevin was an Airdale and flew A-6's till he got to fat. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TM11-227 1944 on CD Avail, The TM11-227 CD-ROM is now available to group members only, for $19.95 shipping included. The manual is in Adobe .PDF format with hyper links from the Table of Contents to each page. You can also page through the manual a page at a time. Pages can be printed out if you desire. The Adobe Reader program is included free if you need it. Please email me at buzzm@reno.rmci.net to reserve your copy and get my mailing address. Thanks, Buzz ed) that's $5.00 less than Buzz is offering this disc for elsewhere. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- R-648/ARR-41? I know its not a ground radio, its not green. but what do you know about the R-648/ARR-41 I believe they were manufactured by Collins as a light weight striped down R-390 for aircraft use. what were they used in ?, when were they used ? were they a companion for the ART-13 and used to replace the BC-348 ? what do you think they are worth today ? wood like to get one and will be interested in trading ground radios for it ( RT-70s, 68 ect. ). when you get the opportunity let me know what you think. Ray Fantini ed) Indeed, the ARR-41 is much like a scaled down R-390A, and yes it was used with the ART-13. In fact it was the last receiver of the three known to have been used with it. While I have been told by both Navy, and Air force vets some of the aircraft it was used in and the approx dates, it didn't stick in my head like it would have if it were a green radio. Maybe some members can enlighten us, & I promise I'll remember this time. It didn't replace the BC-348, the ARR-15 did(which was the only receiver specificaly designed to operated with the ART-13), then came the ARR-41. The ARR-41 is also known to have served a little while after the demized of the ART-13 both as a primary(combined with a transmitter) and as a secondary receiver(stand aloan). They are not a particularly rare radio, Fair Radio had them for many years. Most however were not in very good shape and finding a nice one will not be easy. Performance wise, they worked pretty good having only one failing. As with most equipment of Collins design, about 1/3 of it's guts is gear train. The God awfullist monkey motion mess you ever saw. As all of this mess is mounted behind the front panel, which folds down for servicing(completely disconnecting it from the rest of the radio), there is quite a bit of slop between knob turning and actual guts movement. I/E you'd have the radio's mechanical digital display moving but it would take while for the rest of the radio to catch up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Dennis My box of goddies arrived here safely yesterday. You really did pikc out a nice EE-8, thanks!! If you have not gotten a volunteer to copy manuals for the PRR-9 project, I can take on that job. Kevin Hough KG0QE Farmington, MN. KG0QE@juno.com ed) Your it, see above LIBRARY Posting. *********************************************** ON THE COMMERCIAL FRONT; R-1289/PRR RECEIVER, new in unopened boxes from 1964 contract. Military adoption of a commercial General Electric radio model P-925. We suspect these were either intended for troop intertainment use, or for cold war Civil Defence use in the event of a Nuclear attack. Receivers tune 540-1600kc & 4.0-12.0mc in two bands. Ops from 4ea "C" cell batteries. $20ea plus $5 SHIPPING. Case of 8 for $120.00 plus shipping. STEVE HANEY HANEY ELECTRONIC CO 7225 GREENLEE FORT WORTH TX 76112-5808 817-496-3346 VOICE 817-496-5510 FAX ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRC-75's, All money must be in before shipping and prices are shipping extra. 10ea PRC 75 100.00 ea complete no accy 13ea Chassis 20.00 ea no covers or modules 10ea Parts radios missing parts or modules ect 30.00 ea 2ea Battery boxes very hard to find item 25.00 ea 5ea Covers for radios 8.00 ea nice to have an extra 8ea Power cords 10.00 ea 13ea Crypto cables 15 ea no crypto boxes can be made into power cord 5ea Lanyards 8.00 ea 8ea 50 ohom coax cable adaptors (hard to find) 15.00ea 5ea Transport cases 25.00 ea 9ea misc Modules 10.00 ea 7ea Antennas 10.00 ea When requests are in I will notify who was first so there will be no hard feelings whish there were more Carl *********************************************** HUMOR; The Moral of the story One day at the end of class little Billy's teacher has the class go home and think of a story and then conclude the moral of that story. The following day the teacher asks for the first volunteer to tell their story, little Suzy raises her hand. "My dad owns a farm and every Sunday we load the chicken eggs on the truck and drive into town to sell them at the market. Well, one Sunday we hit a big bump and all the eggs flew out of the basket and onto the road." The teacher asks for the moral of the story. Suzy replies, "Don't keep all your eggs in one basket." Next is little Lucy. "Well my dad owns a farm too and every weekend we take the chicken eggs and put them in the incubator. Last weekend only 8 of the 12 eggs hatched." The teacher asks for the moral of the story. Lucy replies "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched." Last is little Billy. "My uncle Ted fought in the Vietnam war; his plane was shot down over enemy territory. He jumped out before it crashed with only a case of beer, a machine gun and a machete. On the way down he drank the case of beer. Unfortunately, he landed right in the middle of 100 Vietnamese soldiers. He shot 70 with his machine gun, but ran out of bullets, so he pulled out his machete and killed 20 more. The blade on his machete broke, so he killed the last ten with his bare hands". Teacher looks in shock at Billy and asks if there is possibly any moral to his story. Billy replies, "Don't fuck with uncle Ted when he's been drinking." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The harsh realities of being male... " WHY MEN CAN'T WIN" If you put a woman on a pedestal and try to protect her from the rat race, you're a male chauvinist. If you stay home and do the housework, you're a pansy. If you work too hard, there is never any time for her. If you don't work enough, you're a good-for-nothing bum. If she has a boring repetitive job with low pay, this is exploitation. If you have a boring repetitive job with low pay, you should get off your ass and find something better. If you get a promotion ahead of her, that is favoritism. If she gets a job ahead of you, it's equal opportunity. If you mention how nice she looks, it's sexual harassment. If you keep quiet, it's male indifference. If you cry, you're a wimp. If you don't, you're an insensitive bastard. If you thump her, it's wife bashing. If she thumps you, it's self defense. If you make a decision without consulting her, you're a chauvinist. If she makes a decision without consulting you, she's a liberated woman. If you ask her to do something she doesn't enjoy, that's domination. If she asks you, it's a favor. If you appreciate the female form and frilly underwear, you're a pervert. If you don't, you're a fag. If you like a woman to shave her legs and keep in shape, you're a sexist. If you don't, you're unromantic. If you try to keep yourself in shape, you're vain. If you don't, you're a slob. If you buy her flowers, you're after something. If you don't, you're not thoughtful. If you're proud of your achievements, you're up on yourself. If you don't, you're not ambitious. If she has a headache, she's tired. If you have a headache, you don't love her anymore. If you want it too often, you're oversexed. If you don't, there must be someone else. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unusual Bumper Stickers Your kid may be an honor student but you're still an idiot. If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made with meat? Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them. We have enough youth, how about a fountain of smart. Ever stop to think, and forget to start again? Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie!... till you can find a rock. Lead me not into temptation, I can find it myself. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. He who laughs last thinks slowest. Horn broken. Watch for finger. Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... So many pedestrians... So little time. I may be fat, but you're ugly. And I can always diet. Beer isn't just for breakfast any more. Happiness is seeing your motherinlaw's face on the back of a milk carton. Don't laugh Your daughter could be in this vehicle. Fight crime, shoot back My honor student fired your stupid kid. Driver carries only $20 worth of ammunition. When blondes have more fun, do they know it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the law is on your side, argue the law. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When neither the facts nor the law are on your side, holler. -- Sentor Albert Gore, Jr. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember the book "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus"? Well, here's a prime example offered by an English professor at Southern Methodist University: English 44A SMU, Creative Writing Prof. Miller In-class Assignment for Wednesday: "Today we will experiment with a form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. One of you will then write the first paragraph of a short story. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story. The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back and forth. Remember to re-read what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. The story is over when both agree a conclusion has been reached." The following was actually turned in by two of my English students: Rebecca - last name deleted, and Gary - last name deleted." ------------------------------------------------------ STORY: At first, Laurie couldn't decide which kind of tea she wanted. The chamomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that he liked chamomile. But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So chamomile was out of the question. ----------------------------------------------------------- Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed asthmatic bimbo named Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. " A.S. Harris to Geostation 17," he said into his transgalactic Communicator. "Polar Orbit established. No sign of resistance so far..." But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship's cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the cockpit. ---------------------------------------------------------- He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalizing the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4. "Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel," Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window, dreaming of her youth-when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspapers to read, no television to distract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her. "Why must one lose one's innocence to become a woman?", she pondered wistfully. --------------------------------------------------------- Little did she know, but she had less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu'udrian mothership launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dim-witted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the Unilateral Aerospace Disarmament Treaty through Congress had left Earth a defenseless target for the hostile alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty the Anu'udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverize the entire planet. With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion which vaporized Laurie and 85 million other Americans. The President slammed his fist on the conference table." We can't allow this! I'm going to veto that treaty! Let's blow'em out of the sky!" ---------------------------------------------------------- This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic, semi-literate adolescent. ---------------------------------------------------------- Yeah? Well, you're a self-centered tedious neurotic whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. ---------------------------------------------------------- Asshole. ---------------------------------------------------------- Bitch. (The End) *********************************************** (The preceding was a product of the"Military Collector Group Post", an international email magazine dedicated to the preservation of history and the equipment that made it. Unlimited circulation of this material is authorized so long as the proper credits to the original authors, and publisher or this group are included. For more information conserning this group contact Dennis Starks at, military-radio-guy@juno.com) ***********************************************