From: military-radio-guy Full-Name: Dennis R Starks To: military radio collectors#3 Fcc: Sent Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 04:45:04 Subject: MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, Nov.16/98 Message-ID: <19981116.044408.13695.1.military-radio-guy@juno.com> X-Status: Sent X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, Nov.16/98 Index: B-24 CREW MEMBERS SOUGHT; SEM-52 PROJECT? Alan Tasker TROOP MOVEMENTS ON THE AIR; MEMBERS WRITE; R-648/ARR-41/ART-13,Rebut, ARR-41 & MBF? What is a Veteran! PRT-4, PRR-9 Batteries? NEW MEMBER; Marty Reynolds ON THE COMMERCIAL FRONT; R-1289/PRR RECEIVER's, PRC-75's, HUMOR; *********************************************** ANNOUNCEMENTS; *********************************************** B-24 CREW MEMBERS SOUGHT; Dennis, My local Air Force Association ran the following in this months paper. I hope it is of some interest to some of your list members. I don't know the organization, but have checked their web page and they seem legit. The Pueblo (Colorado) Historical Aircraft Society and International B-24 Memorial Museum are establishing a data base of former crew members who flew the B-24, PB4Y-1 Liberators or PB4Y-2 Privateers for the US Army Air Forces, US Navy, or allied nations. The purpose of this data base is to assist other B-24 vets in locating fellow crew members and as a resource for future historical research. If you were a crew member on the above listed aircraft of know someone who was (living or dead), please take a few moments to contact the: International B-24 Memorial Museum 31001 Magnuson Ave. Pueblo, CO 81001 e-mail address is pwam@usa.net Phone is (719)948-9219 Fax is (719) 948-3361 URL: http://www.co.pueblo.co.us/pwam/ I can scan a form and send it via e-mail if anyone would like to fill out the informatin desired by the museum. Thanks and 73 George KC5WBV gah@koyote.com *********************************************** SEM-52 PROJECT? Alan Tasker GROUP PROJECT, SEM 52-A accessories We have good news and not so good news. The good news is that we have found some accessories for the German SEM 52-A radios. The not so good news is that they are in Japan and are on the expensive side. We need an indication of interest on your part so we can get these items to you. Please let me know at your earliest convenience as to what your needs are so we can reserve them, as there are not a lot of them available. Please bear in mind that there will be shipping charges of between $5 and $10 per order in addition to the prices quoted below. Below prices are based on $8.50 per 1000 Yen. This ratio may vary between now and order placement. Item 1a. Channel element, complete with crystal, on 47.65 or 48.05 or 54.05 or 54.85, no choice. $8.50 ea. Item 1b. 4 ea. channel elements (one of each frequency as listed in 1a. above) in a little plastic box with a spare fuse and a fuse puller. $35.00 Item 2a. SEM 52-A headsets (the ones with the bone conduction mike), new, with connector, $50.00 Item 2b. As in 2a above except no connector, $30.00 Item 3. Elastic attachment bands for above headsets, new, $5.00 Item 4. PTT switch in box with PC board, new, $5.00 Item 5. Fuse, $1.00 Item 6. Fuse Cap, $1.00 Item 7. Internal wiring harness, new, $5.00 Item 8. Headset connectors, no cable, $20 Item 9. Speaker/Microphone (not an original SEM 52-A component, but a lot more convenient than what was supplied), wired with proper connector, $60.00 Alan Tasker, atasker@ix.netcom.com ed) let me know what you all think. Personally, I think the source for this equipment has just purchased a lot of SEM-52's, and scrapped them out to produce the above. We could do the same thing for the same amount or less but with more work. We narrowly missed original handsets from Helmut Singer a few months ago for $25.00ea. They had sold out before I could get a message to them. If there is enough interest in the above, the advantage to group participation will be mainly in minimizing importation problems and expense, as these items are coming from Japan and there has been no allowance for a quantity price. *********************************************** TROOP MOVEMENTS ON THE AIR; With all the military movements of the past few days, the HF circuits are hopping. Here are two web links with some HF military frequncy information. More and more military traffic is moving to satellites, so this HF monitoring pastime might disappear soon. 11.175 Mhz USB is particularly busy with phone patches via Andrews. http://www.gem.net/~berri/wun/files/misc/ghfs.html http://raven.cybercomm.net/~slapshot/usnavy.html http://www.mcclellan.af.mil/LH/LHX/index.html As a former Naval Communicator, I find it interesting that most of the jobs in military communications are disappearing. Nearly everyone now has e-mail or telephone like service. On the HF circuits ALE (Automatic Link Establishment) and reliable equipment have made operating the radio nearly as easy as using a phone. The Air Force's "Scope Command" upgrade program will eliminate operator positions in just a few years. Randy Hoops *********************************************** MEMBERS WRITE; R-648/ARR-41/ART-13,Rebut, > In fact it was the last receiver of the three known to have been > used with it. [ ART-13 ] ---Dennis, 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 +1 = 5, hi. how did you forget the ARB, as used on TBF / TBM torpedo bombers? or to a very limited number, but a fact nevertheless, the RAX, as in the PB4Y ? ( in CB terminology, the TBM installation would be called an "alligator": little ears, big mouth. ) ARR-41: this also has modular construction, making it harder to service, isn't that true? and some how, minus the handles and/or the nameplate, as many are found, doesn't it really look kinda cheezy, more like some prototype than a real military receiver? Hue ed) I said 3 "Known". Didn't know about those. Tell us more! these are standard installations. altho the 3x RAX + ART-13, at least according to a USCG history i have, was an experiment. Mike Hanz sent me a photo of such an installation. the ARB + ART-13 replaced the RU + GP set. hue ARR-41 & MBF, Hello Dennis, I have a question for you or the group. A friend showed me a receiver in a black case which has a readout that looks identical to a R390. The front panel reads : R648/ARR41 SN:M.W 4 28VDC N38393197A MFR.05828=20 PT.NO.720-201 I researched the Fed-Log dated 10/95 and this unit has a NSN: 5821-00-521-7967 and also shows a Collins part no. 522-0381-005 (MFR. 13499) The original manufacturer's cage code belongs to Litton Systems. My friend would like to find a manual. This unit has me curious. Could you point me in the right direction for more info? Also, last week I saw an old Navy unit made by Collins called MBF. I'm considering getting it but I could use a bit more info on it. Could anyone shed some light here? Thanks, Glen eldim@worldnet.att.net ed) see above for more info on the ARR-41. The MBF was a Collins built table-top,xtal control, 60-80mc transceiver that operated from 110vac. It was extensively used aboard Naval vessels both U.S. & Allied during WW-II for short range communications between ships. In the mid 50's it was a very popular radio for conversion to the 10mtr ham band. Today they are very hard to find and I know of several people(some members) that are desperate to find one. Again we see where the Navy was 30 years ahead of it's time using VHF in this application. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is a Veteran! Thank You to Dennis Stark... Keep in mind that the word "He" is generic and could also be "She". The word "Soldier" is generic and applies as well to sailors, airmen, marines, CBs, K9s, etc. May God bless America's Veterans Don Robert House ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRT-4, PRR-9 Batteries? Hi Dennis, Love the notes and the humor! Keep up the good work. I am looking for NOS bases and antennas for PRC-25/77's, both the AT-892/PRC-25 and the AT-271A/PRC with the AB-591A/PRC base. Would also like to have some NOS harnesses, LC-2) for back packing the sets, the bag, cotton duck CW-503/PRC-25 for spare equipment and a set of rechargeable batteries and charger for these radios. Also need batteries for the PRR-9 and PRT-4 radios and information on rechargeable batteries and chargers for them if they were ever made. Need real manuals, not copies, for the PRC-25 and -77, operators and organizational manuals. Thanks, Ed Kirkley ed) For the PRR-9 I use 4ea "N" Cell nicads strung end to end with a charge jack on the extreme outside end. Held together with a hot glue gun just long enough to get heat shrink tubing on it. Scrap a Octal tube socket for the power connections. The only common batteries that will fit in the PRT-4's battery box in sufficient quantity are "AAA". Use 10ea and scrap either and old original battery, or a 9 pin miniature tube socket to make power connections. Some people use 2ea 9v transistor radio batteries in the PRT-4 and one each on the PRR-9. I don't approve of either. Both arrangements will provide a voltage higher than what is safe for the radios. In addition, there's no way a 9v battery will fit in the original space on the PRR-9. The arrangement outlined above will, and looks pretty much like the real thing. A good source for bastard sized nicad batteries(including the "N" cells) is either new, or scavenged used batteries for cordless telephones. If this avenue is pursued there are lots of different sized button cells that will work in the PRT-4 as well as other military radios. Do not try to use any type of a battery holder with nicad batteries, you'll just be pissing in the wind. Solder them together. Nicads were not used by the military in these radios, so a surplus original units are not an option. *********************************************** NEW MEMBER; Marty Reynolds Dear Dennis: Charlie Milton submitted your name to me. I've been a ham since '54 (yipes) & started mt radio life sith a BC459. I'm one of the founders of the Classic Radio exchange & always operate my TCS-15 in same. And in the AWA you'll hear me with a DuMont (yes) '42 contract BC 186/187/ 188... that were built for Stilwell et. al. in Burma. So now I'm assembling a SCR828 art'y FM rig as my latest mil-pursuit & think membership might be beneficial. I can offer use of a Sun Sparc 10 & majordomo reflector s/w-install if you consider doing that later. You'd share that T1-connected reflector s/w with 30 other groups & about 4000 messages per day - a fly-spec in the thing's ability. So hope this reads well enough for acceptance, hope you don't consider the reflector occupancy offer a bribe, & I look forward to a positive response. Yours Very Truly Marty Reynolds ...who has a MT1029 VRC shock mount for a RT524 and/or RT274 for sale and who can only guess that if a BC659 counterpart can sell for $300, this oughta be near half that - cause the mid-east lads cud use it today. I need help on this subject and I'm shoppin' for a BC605 interfone amp. PS and why I forgot this I can't guess. I've just finished a "signal conditioner" circuit to use mil-spec headsets in a civvy aircraft. It makes the dynamic mike as found in Telephonics H173 headsets look like a carbon type. Interface idea may be as common as dirt but mamma I did this one myself with 2 transistors and about 6 other passive components. Packaged it in a film can today. And on the H173s, I left a Piper Warrior with mine yesterday while a Huhey Cobra (no kiddin') crew was walking by with their H173s. They didn't notice me but I sure did them! And also I've got a pioneer WW2 bom-mic headset called the HS46/UR that used a M6A/UR carbon mic. My mic is shot so I'd like to probe the subscribers for another - or a dynamic substitute. Funky looking thing that may have been in O-2 attl'y spotters - manual says for use below 10000 feet. Also cud use a CO219 mic. adapter cord that goes PL68 to JJ48 and another one called a CD307 that goes JK26 to PL55 for the headset Marty Reynolds *********************************************** ON THE COMMERCIAL FRONT; R-1289/PRR RECEIVER, new in unopened boxes from 1964 contract. Military adoption of a commercial General Electric radio model P-925. We suspect these were either intended for troop intertainment use, or for cold war Civil Defence use in the event of a Nuclear attack. Receivers tune 540-1600kc & 4.0-12.0mc in two bands. Ops from 4ea "C" cell batteries. $20ea plus $5 SHIPPING. Case of 10 for $150.00 plus shipping. STEVE HANEY HANEY ELECTRONIC CO 7225 GREENLEE FORT WORTH TX 76112-5808 817-496-3346 VOICE 817-496-5510 FAX ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRC-75's, All money must be in before shipping and prices are shipping extra. 10ea PRC 75 100.00 ea complete no accy 13ea Chassis 20.00 ea no covers or modules 10ea Parts radios missing parts or modules ect 30.00 ea 2ea Battery boxes very hard to find item 25.00 ea 5ea Covers for radios 8.00 ea nice to have an extra 8ea Power cords 10.00 ea 13ea Crypto cables 15 ea no crypto boxes can be made into power cord 5ea Lanyards 8.00 ea 8ea 50 ohom coax cable adaptors (hard to find) 15.00ea 5ea Transport cases 25.00 ea 9ea misc Modules 10.00 ea 7ea Antennas 10.00 ea When requests are in I will notify who was first so there will be no hard feelings whish there were more Carl *********************************************** HUMOR; Operating Instructions for Microsoft TV Dinners '98 (tm) You must first remove the plastic cover. 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