MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, May 18/98 INDEX: ANNOUNCEMENTS; Sunday Group Wants/Trades Post Saturday/Manuals Day Proposal GSA AUCTION RESULTS; by Dennis Starks SUCCESS, I'M FEELING MUCH BETTER NOW; by Dennis Starks HUMOR; *********************************************** ANNOUNCEMENTS; Sunday Group Wants/Trades Post. I maxed out the allowable size of our Sunday Group Wants/Trades Post. Some of you may have noticed the abbreviating that I had to do in order to fit in the new additions. Please review your part of this post to insure that it is current, sometimes a single item makes the difference in whether or not another group member's want's can be included. Here are some guide lines: 1) Use abbreviations whenever possible. If there is any confusion, it can be easily explained in further detail when an inquiry is made. 2) There is no need to describe an offering right down to the last dent, and scratch. Though this is an admirable practice, this too can be done once an inquiry is made. But on the other hand use common sense, if it's got no tubes or is a junker/parts set, say so. 3) There have been no changes in rules as they apply to this group, or this post. This is not a commercial forum! If your intent in posting available equipment with this group is to augment your income, you need not participate any further! We have an accepted method for membership, and participation in this manor. 4) Your offering must include a REASONABLE price if it can be purchased. If trading is an option(ALWAYS the preferred method) some indication of your interest should be included. One thing that disgusts me more that cat shit is a dealer that masquerades as a collector to conduct his business. Don't misunderstand, I have nothing against dealers, we have a couple excellent ones as members of our group, and I am one myself(though not in militaria). 5) There is no need to include lines like "Plus shipping" especially after each item,as this is already universally understood. And any such negotiations can take place after initial contact. Or catch words/lines like "rare", "very rare", "hard to find" etc. If a person knows what it is that these lines are tacked to, and has been looking for it, he already knows these facts. Besides, it makes your offering sound like cheep promotional hype! 6) As always, if you have a long, or detailed list of want's and trade's, this can be posted once in our daily post. If you send me such a listing, and wish it to be included it's one time in the normal daily post, please tell me so. Thereafter, an abbreviated version with a note to the availability of the long list can be posted in the Sunday Group Wants/Trades Post. 7) If EVER you have any misgivings about any dealings you've had with another group member, I want to know about it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday/Manuals Day Proposal. One of the things we all most often need is printed material. Be it manuals, books, historic documents whatever. Likewise, we all have extras of these same items we don't need. And as all these take up considerable space when we try to list them, I propose another special regular group post to augment the Sunday Group Wants/Trades Post. What say we set aside each Saturday for a group post devoted entirely to these various types of printed matter? Thereafter excluding them from the Sunday post, thus providing the added advantage of freed up space here for more entries. Here too we would need a few guide lines: 1) Whenever known, all manuals offered should include the date it was published, TM or other applicable number/publisher, and it's official title(abbreviations some times needed). And if it's a copy, indicate this. 2) Books offered should include the Author's name, copy write date and publisher. This as there are many historic publications with extremely similar titles. 3) Persons listing materials wanted should indicate whether or not a copy is acceptable. Personally, I'm always happy with a copy to get me started, then continue to look for the originals. 4) Other manuals would not be exempt from our listings, such as those published by ARRL, Editors & Engineers, or vintage magazines etc. What are your thoughts? What might we title this post? Do I have a volunteer who would like to undertake it's editing? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It appears we have lost another member. But happily this time, not by any wrong doing. Spencer Banner has changed jobs, and with this lost his email address. Does anybody know how he can be contacted? Dennis *********************************************** GSA AUCTION RESULTS; by Dennis Starks Well I drove the 180miles to attend this auction knowing all along I couldn't afford anything, and sure as shit, I couldn't. Didn't buy a damn thing! The only radios offered were a sprinkling of Motorola MX-300S VHF HT's in amongst a couple of tons of total junk, so I didn't even hang around to see them sell(lot # 530 out of 536). But I did wait to see what the vehicles went for. 6 x 6's, as usual, represented the bulk of military vehicles sold, and the best bargains. I suppose I'm gonna hafta get me one of these to use as a yard ornament as the Huey deal fell through last year. Maybe somebody can tell me which is the best type to have, as there are so many variants spanning 45 years, I'm thoroughly confused. Buy way of 6 x 6's they had American Generals($1600), GMC($1500), Kaisers Wrecker($4600 was real nice), a second one sold for $2900. Also sold were Kaiser M-35A($825), Utica Bend M-35($600), GMC M-135($350 with a tanker bed on it), Reo M-35($300 also with a tanker bed on it). All of these trucks were in repairable or better condition. Then we got to the M-37 Dodges(I'd really like to have one), mind you, these things for the most part needed to be loaded on their transport trailers with a large fork lift. In other words, they were in horrible shape! The first one went for $1475, followed by a T-245 for $875(what the hell's the difference between a T-245, and an M-37?). Two more sold for around $700, but I could not see much on them that was salvageable, and mind you, I'd buy a junk one because I have access to one that the body's about to rust off of, so I have plenty of available parts. Then came the real jokes of the day, the M-38A1's. There was three of them, total shit condition they brought $1550, $1225, and the last one $2100(the dumb ass was afraid he'd go home without one). What's the world coming to? And not an M-715 in the bunch. Hmmmm? The last items of interest were the generators and associated trailers. Dual 10, and 5kw generator sets, mounted on trainers, brought an average of $700ea(twice what I gave for mine two years ago). Single units setting on the ground brought $400ea regardless if they where 400cps, 60cps, or 28vdc, it would seem that nobody knows the difference. I also don't know why it is, that one generator setting on the ground will bring sometimes as much as two generators mounted on a trailer! For those that are within travel distance, there will be another such sale in Waunakee Wisconsin on May 21. They've got some interesting stuff listed, but you'd probably need to take your banker along. Some highlights are several M-54 6x6 variants, a bunch of M-35's. 3ea of somethin they call a "truck rubber tracked carrier"(one is referred to as a M-548) all are mid 80's vintage. It is possible that these are amphibious cargo carriers as some are noted in the sale bill heading. Also to be offered are the usual array of generators, and assorted junk. Dennis Starks; MILITARY RADIO COLLECTOR/HISTORIAN military-radio-guy@juno.com *********************************************** SUCCESS, I'M FEELING MUCH BETTER NOW!; by Dennis Starks The last couple months have produced some very worthy additions to my collection, including not only equipment, but also long sought after miscellaneous items I've been searching for for some years. I hope that other members have been as fruitful, and with the ending of this years Dayton Hamvention, I'm sure we will soon learn of some adventures that took place there. Though horror stories are more like it! Manuals are often the hardest item to find for some oddball piece of equipment. In this regard two members stand out that have graciously provided me with copies of manuals for some real odd balls. These would be Tom Brian, and Bruce Haffner, who between them came up with manuals for a Motorola SA-211, PRC-39, PRC-89. Doug Munsion came up with a long sought after manual for a Plantronics(Cesna) PT-10A, and Sheldon Wheaton jeep installation documents for the TCS. Also to turn up were a host of data and manuals for the OPS series, Harris RF-SB6 manual, an original PRC-5 manual, the list goes on. Hardware too was added to the collection. My Spring Cleaning efforts(still not finished) netted me a lot more room not only by liquidating these trip hazards, but trading them for much smaller, thus less hazardous items. A GRR-5 was trade to David Davidson for a PRC-68 which in turn was given to Lenox Carruth for a WW-II Forestry radio, this all representing an 2/3 reduction in mass, and a now much beloved radio. David came to the rescue again swapping a bunch of bulky GRC stuff for a couple German PRC-6/6's, again resulting in a major clutter reduction, and a worth while collection addition. Jeff Leopard provided me with a PRC-126 in swap for my extra PRC-74. The Extra PRC-74 was the result of Dave Stinson trading me a much nicer one he'd picked up ant a hamfest for a bunch of aircraft shit. The net result was a much nicer PRC-74 in the collection, a really nice PRC-126, and a lot more room around here to fill with other goodies. And all it cost was a bunch of aircraft shit! Joe Pinner, among other notable contributions, took my extra MAY-1 off my hands in return for the GRA-71 that had been offered in the Museum downsizing list. Now see, you might think you don't have anything to trade to effect your desires, but Joe found a way! This swap too resulted in an item I've been after for some years, and a major increase in ambient room. In this light, Joe got screwed pretty bad! And the list goes on, Jay Awbrey sent me a Russian R-105D which had been a Vietnam trophy, and still has the original mud caked on it. I found another PRC-5 with all the accessories, and the original manual. True, I already had a PRC-5, but not the manual or accessories, and mine was missing the lid. The old one will now be used as future trading fodder, and already has some suckers/er ah, prospects standing in line. Both John Mackesy, and Steve Hill have finally found me the long awaited A510, and between the two a really nice set should result. Maybe even two, one for the museum display, and another to take on the radio with the rolling display. And then there's the sideline collection. When I purchase the house next door last year, I swore that I'd put no radios in it. This because radios had forced me out of the old house which now contains only radios, my library, and this computer. But the new house had this massive rock fire place that I just had to decorate. Hence my second love was reborn. Military guns, and edged weapons. Noteworthy additions to this cause provided me by group members include a First issue Colt AR-15A2 with accessories(including scope, and PVS-502), M-14A2, 1873 Trap Door Springfield(dated 1883), 1927 Argentine(Colt 1911 45), Smith 1955(45), SKS, Arisaka, Nagant, Tokarev(peica shit but looks neat), a pair of Broom Handle's, 1859 cavalry sabre, a civil war artillery short sword, 1910 Marine Corps bolo, several WW-II Marine Corps Bowies, a Japanese sword dated prior to 1580. And a host of other knives, bayonets, and swords, nearly all traded for radios. The fire place and one wall are now completed, but there's two more walls to go. But there's always a down side, now that I have the manual for my Motorola SA-211, I see all the accessories for it that I don't have, so the quest is expanded. I now have a PRC-126, but the accessories for it are astounding, and I have none. The German PRC-6/6's are really neat, but now I must find manuals, crystals, etc. Now I have manuals for the PRC-39, and 89, but I don't have the radios, and as I now know they existed, and what they were, this is not acceptable! The WW-II Forestry radio is a most interesting set, but virtually nothing is known about it. Each item of ordinance collected produced more searching that must be done. So each step forward amounts to mad dash backwards. Perhaps an evaluation of my sanity is order, or our sanity's! Dennis Starks; MILITARY RADIO COLLECTOR/HISTORIAN military-radio-guy@juno.com *********************************************** HUMOR; Blonde Jokes What do you do if a blond throws a grenade at you? Pull the pin and throw it back! Submitted by James ------------------------------------------------------------ Q:One day the Social Studies teacher asked a blonde to name all the capitals in the United States Of America. A:The blonde said easy U.S.A. Submitted by K.L.F & D.A.R. ------------------------------------------------------------ Q. What does a U.F.O and an intellegent blonde have in common? A. You always hear about them... but you never see them! Submitted by EDJ ------------------------------------------------------------ What is it when you hear this: vroom. screach. vroom. screach. vroom. screach.? A blonde at a blinking stoplight. Submitted by Heather ------------------------------------------------------------ Why did the blonde put lipstick on her forehead? She was trying to make up her mind!!! Submitted by Ace ------------------------------------------------------------ A blonde was going to Paris and she had a coach seat. When she got on the plane she sat in first class. A stuwardess came and told her to go into coach she said she didn't have to. Another stuwardess came and said if she didn't go in coach she would get the co-piolit. She said she wouldn't move. The co-piolit came and whispered something in her ear and she got up went to coach. The other two asked how he did it and he said he told her this part of the plane wasn't goin to Paris. Submitted by Nick ------------------------------------------------------------ BLOND INVENTIONS 1.The solar power flashlight 2. Dehydrated water 3.Fire proof matches Submitted by HAPPY:o) ------------------------------------------------------------ How do you get a one armed blonde out of a tree? Wave to her. What was she doing there in the first place? Raking leaves How do you make a group of blonde's commit mass suicide? Put mirrors at the bottom of a pool. Submitted by Kellogg Krew ------------------------------------------------------------ Q. How many blondes does it take to change a light bulb? A. Who knows it has never been done!!!!!!! Submitted by P.O.'d Brunnetts ------------------------------------------------------------ Fifteen minutes into the flight from Kansas City to Toronto, the captain announced, "Ladies and gentlemen, one of our engines has failed. There is nothing to worry about. Our flight will take an hour longer than scheduled, but we still have three engines left." Thirty minutes later the captain announced, "One more engine has failed and the flight will take an additional two hours. But don't worry ... we can fly just fine on two engines." An hour later the captain announced, "One more engine has failed and our arrival will be delayed another three hours. But don't worry ... we still have one engine left." A young blonde passenger turned to the man in the next seat and remarked, "If we lose one more engine, we'll be up here all day!" Submitted by Hugh ------------------------------------------------------------ There were three blonds: Mindy, the smartest, Lindy, semi-smart and Candy, really dumb. They were spys. They were in Russia when they got caught. At Mindy's execution they said: any last words. So she said tornado,tornado! The soldiers left and Mindy went home. On lindy's execution day they said the same thing and she said hurricane, >hurricane! Lindy joined Mindy back home. On Candy's execution day they also said the same thing and she answered: fire,fire! so they fired and killed her! Submitted by Allie ------------------------------------------------------------ Q:Why did blonde throw a puppy on a bun & in the microwave? A:She wanted a hotdog. Submitted by Krovak ------------------------------------------------------------ A blonde and a brunette are sitting in a bar and watching the 11:00 P.M. news. A man is standing on the ledge of a high-rise building, contemplating suicide. The brunette says to the blonde: "I'll bet you $20.00 that the man jumps off that building and commits suicide." The blonde thinks for a moment then replies: "OK, you're on!" They watch for a few minutes and sure enough, the man jumps off the ledge. The blonde sighs and reaches for her wallet, but the brunette stops her, saying: "I can't take your money - I feel too guilty. I have to confess that I watched the 6:00 P.M. news this evening and I knew that the man would jump. The blonde replied: "Oh! I watched the 6:00 P.M. news too, but I didn't think he'd jump off again!" Q: What's covered with blood and lies in a ditch? A: A brunette that told too many blonde jokes! Submitted by INTELLIGENT BLONDE ------------------------------------------------------------ What do you call a blonde with a dollor bill on her head All you can eat under a buck! Submitted by Twister ------------------------------------------------------------ A blonde is driving home from getting her hair dyed as she notices a sheep crossing sign... A farmer waved her down and asked her to stop and wait until his sheep are done crossing. She agrees to let his sheep cross. She then asked the farmer if she could have one of his sheep if she could guess how many he had. So, he said o.k., she said 432. He was amazed that she got the correct number and decided to let her have a sheep. She got out of the car and picked the one she wanted and stuck it in the car. The farmer then asked if he could guess her natural hair color if he could have his sheep back. The blonde decided to go along with it since her hair was now dyed red. The farmer goes you're a blonde, right? She then asked, How'd you guess? He said, Can I have my dog back? Submitted by Boops ------------------------------------------------------------ Q)What did the blonde do when she broke her tuperware? A) Called the plastic surgeon. Submitted by Jered ------------------------------------------------------------ There were five blondes at a pop machine that kept putting quarters in and kept piling the pop up. They did this for about an hour, when a man asked if he could budge and get a pop. They replied, "no, we're on a winning streak...!!!!!!!!" Submitted by CJ Wilson ------------------------------------------------------------ Bored and Blonde? Go to the mall !! * Walk up to two people sitting a bench and say, "I'm a Doctor, I need to know what time it is." After one tells you, turn to the other and say, "Would you be willing to give ME a second opinion on THAT?" * Stop at the Athletic Shoe Store, and ask the clerk, "What is the largest size of men's basketball shoes you carry.?" Then, ask him sheepishly, "Could I leave my card, and a note for whoever buys them?" * Wearing a walkman, head into Radio Shack and tell them, "Today, I'm looking for a shack." * Ask the clerk at Fanny Farmer to see either one, and mumble something about false advertising on the way out. * Stand in front of a Victoria's Secret show window with a clipboard. Stop various men, point to a really skimpy item, and ask, "If I was willing to model that for you, would you buy it for me?" * Go into the Armed Services Recruiting Office, and ask if you could set up a desk - just to talk to the rejects. * In the Athletic Wear Store, ask the clerk a question about a particular sweat suit, like, "How much sweat do you think this one will this soak up if I'm really HOT?" * Go into the Earring Store and ask if they pierce other places, like nipples. If they say yes, tell them, "I'll be right back, I just need to go out to the car and get my pregnant pit bull." * Walk into the Jewelry Store, and while unbuttoning your blouse, ask loudly, "How many varieties of nipple rings do you carry?" * In the Sports Collectibles Store, ask, "Do you have nude autographed photos of Dennis Rodman?" If not, ask "Would you take some on consignment?" * In the Book Store, ask for a book about famous Jewish Sports Legends - and get indignant if they only hand you a pamphlet. * Ask the security guard why the "Seeing Eye Dogs Only" sign isn't printed in braille. And, "If I'm not blind, but I brought along my sister's Seeing Eye Dog, would that be OK?" * In the Barbeque Grill Store, ask the clerk if he's got a small one, because, "I'm on my way to the movies and think the concession stand choices are too limited." * The Warner Brothers Store will appreciate you walkin --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Blonde went to the emergency room with the tip of her index finger blown off. "How did this happen?", the doctor asked. "Well I was trying to commit suicide," the Blonde replied. "Trying to commit suicide by shooting your finger?" "No, silly! First I put the gun between my breasts and I thought 'I just paid $20,000 for these', then I put it in my mouth I thought 'I just paid $15,000 to get my teeth straightened'. So then I put the gun in my ear and I thought 'this is going to make a loud noise', so I put my finger in my other ear before I pulled the trigger." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: North and South Everything Southern has its spiritual Yankee counterpart. Here's how to tell which is which: The North has sun-dried too-mah-toes The South has 'mater samiches The North has coffeehouses The South has Waffle Houses The North has Mom The South has Mama The North has dating services The South has family reunions The North has switchblade knives The South has Lee press-on nails The North has saving the whales The South has getting saved The North has double last names The South has double first names The North has sensational tabloids The South has neighbors The North has Ted Kennedy The South has Jesse Helms The North,a gal says, "You can sleep with me" The South "You all can sleep with me" The North has the Mafia, The South has NASCAR *********************************************** (The preceding was a product of the"Military Collector Group Post", an international email magazine dedicated to the preservation of history and the equipment that made it. Unlimited circulation of this material is authorized so long as the proper credits to the original authors, and publisher are included. For more information conserning this group contact Dennis Starks at, military-radio-guy@juno.com) ***********************************************