From: military-radio-guy Full-Name: Dennis R Starks To: military radio collectors#1 Fcc: Sent Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 04:15:37 Subject: MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, May 5/99 Message-ID: <19990505.041444.7335.4.military-radio-guy@juno.com> X-Status: Sent X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, May 5/99 Index: EAT OUR HEART'S OUT; The Dave Stinson Collection SERBS LISTEN IN ON NATO PILOTS; COMM. EMERGENCY DECLARED FOR OK. & KS. HUMOR; *********************************************** EAT OUR HEART'S OUT; The Dave Stinson Collection Code: nhi (need historical info), nss (need second set), nm (need manuals), nom (need original manuals), na (need accessories), np (need parts), opl (operational), ert (extra radio to trade), eat (extra accessories to trade), p/o (part of system), hcs (have complete set), hts (have test set), nib (new in box) Pre-WWII Aircraft: (all these were used throughout WWII) SCR-183 circa 1934 aircraft command set, BC-230/BC-229, hcs, nhi SCR-283 late 30s aircraft command set, BC-429/BC-430, np, na, nhi GF11/RU16 late-30s 14 volt Navy aircraft command set. np, na, nm Pre-WWII Ground Portable BC-9 circa 1921 Infantry set, p/o SCR-, np, na, nm Pre-WWII Coast Guard RCA T104/R104 lifeboat radio, circa 1937. nhi, nm, na, np Bendix R-103 Liason aircraft receiver, circa 1938, nhi, nm, na WW-II Aviation AMA Marine Corps Glider set, same as BC-721 (Glider BC-611), opl, nhi, nm, na SCR-274N Command Set 3RX/2TX, hcs, opl, ert, eat, hts. SCR-287 Liason set, (BC-375/BC-348, accs.), hcs, opl, ert, eat SCR-522 VHF Command Set hcs, eat, hts. ARA/ATA Navy Command Set, 2TX/2RX, hcs, ert, eat, hts ARB/ATB Navy Command Set, nom, na. ARB/ATD Navy Liason Set, na AN/ARC-1 VHF Command Set, hcs, opl AN/ARC-2 HF Command Set, hcs, opl AN/ARC-3 VHF Command Set, nss, na, eat AN/ARC-4 VHF Command Set, hcs, hts AN/ARC-5 HF/VHF combination Command Set, nom, hcs, eat, ert, hts AN/ARC-8 Liason Set (BC-348, ART-13, accs.), hcs, opl, hrt AN/ART-19 transmitter, nhi, na. MN-26 Radiocompass, hcs. ZM-2, -3 radio navigation sets, hcs, nom. AN/ARR-2 radio navigation set, hcs. Bendix TA-12 transmitter, nom, na, nhi Navy RAX (all three sets) na, np, nom, nss. WWII RCA light aircraft: AVR-7, -15, -20, -100, -101, -103, -104 receivers. AVT-15, -23 -111, -112 transmitters. AVR-20/AVT-112/AVA-126/Antenna reel "Spotter Aircraft" set, hcs Misc. "Ferry" radios. BC-348s: All three designs (P, Q and R) opl. Uncommon -O RCA model (restoring). New "P" model in the original WWII crate. WW-II Infantry Portables BC-611-C, opl, na BC-611-F, opl, na BC-659, na BC-1000, na WW-II Navy Collins TCS-12 TX/RX, matching serials, hcs, opl. Hammond TCS-13 TX/RX, hcs, opl. DAG Portable Direction Finder receiver, nom, na, nhi RBM-5, complete RX set less case legs, matching serial numbers, na (case legs, slides). RBZ portable receiver hcs, opl. RBL Receiver. opl, nom, na. WW-II Entertainment Sets Crosley Navy REO opl, nm Minerva Tropic Master opl, nm Post- WWII ARC-type-12 Command Set, na. ARC-type-17 Command Set, na Rare Command Sets: RAT (both), RAT-1 (both) Early electronic warfare monitor receivers. nhi, np, na, nom, nss. AN/ARC-5 T-15, T-16 and T-17 transmitters. nom, na, nss BC-950 transmitter, rare SCR-274N VHF set, nib, nom, na. Colonial BC-946 receiver in black paint. 1st production run A.R.C. SCR-274N BC-457 transmitter. 2nd and 3rd generation ATA transmitters. 7-9.1mc ATA transmitter. ert Early production A.R.C. R-13 receiver, black paint with freq. dial. David Stinson AB5S *********************************************** SERBS LISTEN IN ON NATO PILOTS; Some Attacks Thwarted Because of Allied Jets' Unsecure Radio Gear By Dana Priest Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, May 1, 1999; Page A01 Yugoslav forces have apparently thwarted some NATO air attacks because at times allied pilots speak to each other and to ground-based air controllers over open communications systems, according to NATO officials and U.S. intelligence reports. Although the bombing campaign against Yugoslavia is the most technologically sophisticated in history -- with the largest percentage of precision-guided bombs ever -- some NATO countries' aircraft do not carry secure communications equipment. Their governments were either unwilling or unable on short notice to equip their planes with secure radio gear compatible with U.S. aircraft and other up-to-date planes in the 19-member alliance. "All the NATO aircraft aren't equipped with the same kind of equipment we have," said an Air Force official. When the planes without secure communications take part in operations, pilots in other planes must speak on unsecured radio frequencies that NATO knows are being monitored by Yugoslav forces as well as civilian radio enthusiasts, said communications experts at the Pentagon, at NATO and in private industry. "Yep, if you have 20 aircraft flying together, but some who don't have [secure communications equipment], no one can use it," said one NATO aviator. Following NATO practice, the conversations are in English. As a result, Yugoslav forces are using English-speaking civilians, many of them English teachers, to listen in on and translate unencrypted voice communications between NATO ground controllers and some of the NATO warplanes taking off each day, according to U.S. intelligence reports. In some cases, the reports say, Yugoslav forces apparently have known the target and timing of a NATO attack and the direction in which the planes were flying. One U.S. Air Force fighter pilot reported that each time he used the code word for a specific SA-6 ground-to-air antiaircraft missile site, the missile was immediately hidden and he was unable to strike it as a target. This happened twice, and suggested to analysts that Yugoslav forces also have access to NATO code words for specific targets. NATO countries have struggled during the alliance's 50-year history with making the often-unique military equipment of individual countries compatible with that of others. The issue was one of the major, if little noticed, topics of discussion at the NATO summit last weekend. "Communications is truly the weak link in the chain of this operation," said Bruce Lambert, a defense analyst and communications specialist at DFI International, a defense consulting firm in Washington. Lambert and other experts say the lack of communications "interoperability," as this is known in NATO, has posed a problem in Operation Allied Force because the duration of the air war has given Yugoslav forces time to figure out the patterns and to decode the pilot chatter they are hearing every day. Aircraft from NATO's most advanced military countries -- the United States, Britain, France and others -- have equipment in the cockpits of their fighter jets that allows them to scramble communications and to receive secure target and other data from AWACS and other surveillance aircraft whose job it is to survey the skies and the ground. But newer alliance partners, and those that do not regularly take part in NATO exercises, do not. Also, the United States, with its vast technological edge, does not want to share all of its capabilities with other nations, even allies. "The quandary military leaders face is, if you're going to protect the security of your own forces, how much are you going to share?" said Hal Gershanoff, publisher of the Journal of Electronic Defense. The ability of allied aircraft to communicate with one another also was a problem during the Persian Gulf War in 1991, even though some allied countries retrofitted their planes with common secure communications equipment before the operation began. For example, commanders had to fly flight tasking orders to Navy ships because the Army and Navy did not have compatible, secure communications systems. Although such communications obstacles have been largely overcome, different branches of the U.S. military still have problems in this area. But the NATO operation faces another challenge: ever-more sophisticated hobbyists who collect and then disperse, via the Internet, military radio frequencies and the takeoff of NATO jets headed out for bombing runs each day from bases in Italy, England, Germany and elsewhere. "They stand at the end of the runways, look at the tail-wing numbers, and call me," said John Pike, an intelligence expert at the Federation of American Scientists whose Web site includes a detailed description of the types and squadrons aircraft belong to. The adjustment to that is taking time. About a week into the air war, Lt. Col. Ed Worley, an Air Force public affairs officer at the Pentagon, received a call from a retired military officer saying that, using his radio equipment, he had heard NATO pilots talking about operations and was worried it could compromise war plans. It was a Saturday afternoon, and Worley recalled he was "shocked and dismayed," so he called the Air Force operations center. "Our operations folks said we have to talk in the clear all the time," he said yesterday. Even the Pentagon has been taking advantage of the air chatter over Kosovo. Yesterday it released the audio of a bombing run of an American fighter pilot near Pristina on Tuesday. It was a conversation between a forward air controller, who helps direct the attack plane to the target, and the pilot, who drops the bomb or missile. "Two-one in from the north," he says as he begins the bombing run. "Bombs away." The forward air controller tells the pilot he sees anti-aircraft artillery "at three clock." "Bombs on bull," the pilot says, acknowledging a bull's-eye. "Good hit," the controller replies. Staff researcher Rob Thomason contributed to this report. © Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company *********************************************** COMM. EMERGENCY DECLARED FOR OK. & KS. UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF SECTION 97.401 OF THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION'S RULES AND REGULATIONS, (47 C.F.R. PART 97) A COMMUNICATIONS EMERGENCY IS DECLARED TO EXIST IN THE OKLAHOMA AREA DUE TO THE VIOLENT TORNADOES AND EXPECTED SEVERE WEATHER, REQUIRING THE PROTECTION OF AMATEUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION FREQUENCIES. AMATEURS ARE REQUIRED TO REFRAIN FROM USING 3900 KHZ FROM NOW UNTIL MAY 7 AT 2100 CENTRAL STANDARD TIME. ALSO, AMATEURS ARE REQUIRED TO REFRAIN FROM USING 7285 KHZ FOR THE SAME TIME FRAME. BOTH FREQUENCIES ARE PROTECTED PLUS OR MINUS 3 KHZ UNLESS AMATEURS ARE TAKING PART IN THE HANDLING OF EMERGENCY TRAFFIC. THIS ORDER IS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. ARLAN K. VAN DOORN DEPUTY CHIEF COMPLIANCE AND INFORMATION BUREAU FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION WASHINGTON, DC. *********************************************** HUMOR; Once there was a beautiful woman who loved to work in her vegetable garden, but no matter what she did, she couldn't get her tomatoes to ripen. Admiring her neighbor's garden, which had beautiful bright red tomatoes, she went one day and inquired of him his secret. "It's really quite simple," the old man explained. "Twice each day, in the morning and in the evening, I expose myself in front of the tomatoes and they turn red with embarrassment." Desperate for the perfect garden, she tried his advice and proceeded to expose herself to her plants twice daily. Two weeks passed and her neighbor stopped by to check her progress. "So", he asked, "Any luck with your tomatoes?" "No", she replied excitedly... "But you should see the size of my cucumbers! ----------------------------------------------------------------- A wife and her husband were having a dinner party for some important guests. The wife was very excited about this and wanted everything to be perfect. At the very last minute, she realized that she didn't have any snails for the dinner party, so she asked her husband to run down to the beach with the bucket to gather some snails. Very grudgingly he agreed. He took the bucket, walked out the door, down the steps, and out to the beach. As he was collecting the snails , he noticed a beautiful woman strolling alongside the water just a little further down the beach. He kept thinking to himself, "Wouldn't it be great if she would even just come down and talk to me?" He went back to gathering the snails. All of a sudden he looked up, and the beautiful woman was standing right over him. They started talking and she invited him back to her place. They ended up spending the night together. At seven o'clock the next morning he woke up and exclaimed, "Oh no!!! My wife's dinner party!!!" He gathered all his clothes, put them on real fast, grabbed his bucket, and ran out the door. He ran down the beach all the way to his apartment. He ran up the stairs of his apartment. He was in such a hurry that when he got to the top of the stairs, he dropped the bucket of snails. There were snails all down the stairs. The door opened just then, with a very angry wife standing in the door way wondering where he's been all this time. He looked at the snails all down the steps, then he looked at her, then back at the snails and said, "Come on guys, we're almost there!!" ----------------------------------------------------------------- Why doesn't Tarzan have a beard? Don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things. One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes? The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live. Never trust a stockbroker who's married to a travel agent. Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. Is boneless chicken considered to be an invertebrate? On the other hand, you have different fingers. I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose. If all those psychics know the winning lottery numbers, why are they all still working? *********************************************** (The preceding was a product of the"Military Collector Group Post", an international email magazine dedicated to the preservation of history and the equipment that made it. Unlimited circulation of this material is authorized so long as the proper credits to the original authors, and publisher or this group are included. For more information conserning this group contact Dennis Starks at, military-radio-guy@juno.com) ***********************************************