From: military-radio-guy Full-Name: Dennis R Starks To: military radio collectors#3 Fcc: Sent Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:52:36 Subject: MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, Oct.13/98 Message-ID: <19981013.075033.4983.5.military-radio-guy@juno.com> X-Status: Sent X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, Oct.13/98 Index: ANNOUNCEMENT; MILITARY RADIO DATA REFERENCES: INDEX TO PRC DESIGNATED MILITARY RADIO EQUIPMENT: GREEN BATTERIES, BEWARE! by Ralph Hogan MEMBERS WRITE; Gibson Girl/NSG-2, Tom's House Cleaning,(it's about time!) NON-MEMBER STUFF AVAIL; HUMOR; *********************************************** ANNOUNCEMENT; Today begins the continuation of an old series first published last year, "PRC Data Addenda". It will include all the information that has surfaced for various PRC designated military radios since the series was first sent out. Those of you who were lucky and received it the first time should be able to add this info to that rather simply. Those who've purchased the book should also have no trouble transferring this material to a word processor and making the needed alterations for printing and inclusion. The first document to be sent will be a list of the reference material all this data was obtained from. You might also use it as a shopping list for books you should be on the lookout for. You'll notice that each radio description is followed by a Ref.#, this refers to the corresponding number in the reference list where the original data was obtained. This same list, with a few additions has been used many times in the past, and will continue to be in the future. The second document is a complete index for all the radios of this type that some data has been obtained for. In some/many cases, the information on a given radio is very limited and more data is desperately needed. Should you have knowledge of any set not included in the index, or even suspect that you might have more info on a radio that is included, please let us know about it. Similarly if you should like to see the known data on any of those sets included in the index you can request it at any time. DO NOT ask to receive the complete original series, this because that material is now in print, and is far too lengthy for me to email (in excess of 80 pages). All this material was originally composed in MS Works, and each instalment will be followed by the format by which you should be able to duplicate the material for the purpose of printing & compatibility with previously presented material. You should be able to open a word processor file, select/copy/paste this data to it. Dennis *********************************************** MILITARY RADIO DATA REFERENCES: (*) Indicates do not have access to the entire document. #1.TM11-487,2 Oct 1944,Electronic Communications System Equipment. #2.TM11-487A,Aug 1950,Directory of Signal Corps Radio Communication Equipment #3.TM11-487A,1958,MIL-HDBK-161,Military Handbook Electronic Communication Equipment. #3A.TM11-487A-2,1964,MIL-HDBK-161A,Military Standardization Handbook, Electronic Communications Equipment. #4.TME11-227,June 1944,Signal Communication Equipment Directory,German Radio Communication Equipment. #5.TME11-227A,Dec 1944,Signal Communication Equipment Directory,Japanese Radio Communication Equipment. #6.TM11-227,10 Apr 1944,Signal Communication Equipment Directory,Radio Communication Equipment. #7.SIG 3,Oct 1953,List of Current Issue Items. #8.SHIPS 275,1 Aug 1944,Catalogue of Naval Radio Equipment. #9.FM24-24,20 May 1977,Radio & Radar Reference Data. A.FM24-24,Dec 1983. #10.Janes,1979/80,Military Communications. #11.Janes,1981,Military Communications. #12.Janes,1988,Military Communications. A.Janes,1985,Military Communications.* B.Janes,1994/1995,Military Communications.* #13.FAIR RADIO catalogue WS-( ).* #14.ECOM 4451,Nov 1976,History of the Squad Radio. #15.Milcom Exchange Catalogues.* #16.Electronics Magazine,May 16 1966, #17.Surplus Electronics Digest (Milcom Exchange).* #18.Military Communications,A TEST FOR TECHNOLOGY,The US Army in Vietnam by John D.Bergen,CMH Pub 91-12. #19.U.S.Army in WW-II,The Signal Corps. A.The Emergency,by Dulany Terrett. B.The Test,by George Raynor Thompson,Dixie R.Harris,Pauline M.Oaks, Dulany Terrett. C.The Outcome,by George Raynor Thompson,Dixie Harris,CMH Pub 10-18. #20.OSS Special Weapons and Equipment,by Keith Melton. #21.CIA Special Weapons and Equipment,by Keith Melton. #22.Command Sets,a series of articals written by Gorden Eliot circa 1964-65 for CQ Magazine #23.Item contained in my personal collection of equipment. #24.ARROW Sales catalogue #113. #25.Liberty Electronics Catalogue. #26.Item has been personally encountered by me. #27.Communications Receivers 3rd edition,by Raymond S Moore. #28.Federal Logistics Data on Compac Disc(Fed Log).1995 #29.AFP 100-14,May 1980. #29A,AFM 100-14,Feb.1969 #30.Associated equipments technical manual. #31.Interviews with owners or former users. #32.Internet WEB page,Ft Gorden Georgia.* #33.Manufactures promotional literature. #34 Internet Web Site.* #35 Shortwave Receivers Past & Present(1942-1997). by Fred Osterman. #36 Radios by Hallicrafters, by Chuck Dachis. #37 Wireless for the Warrior, Vol. I. by Louis Meulstee #38 Navships 94200.1(approx 1962) Communications Equipment Directory* #39 T.O.31R-1-8, Ground Communications Electronic and Meteorological Equipment Directory, Radio Equipment. 1961 #40 FM24-19, 1991, Radio Operator's Handbook. #41 TC24-24, 1988, Signal Data References: Communications-Electronics Equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Format: Courier #10 font. Margins as follows, Top .4", Bottom .25", Left .5", Right .5", Header .2", Footer 0". *********************************************** INDEX TO PRC DESIGNATED MILITARY RADIO EQUIPMENT: PRC-1 PRC-74A PRC-134(V)6(C) KL/PRC-3620 PRC-F1 PRC-74B PRC-134(V)7(C) PRC-4620 PRC-2 PRC-74C PRC-135(V)1 KL/PRC-6608 PRC-2F PRC-74T PRC-135(V)2(C) PRC-3 PRC-74(?) PRC-135(V)3(C) PRC-3F PRC-75 PRC-136 PRC-4 PRC-75A PRC-138 PRC-5 PRC-77 PRC-138(V)X Addenda: PRC-6 PRC-77/GY PRC-138A(V)1 PRC-76 PRC-6T PRC-77A/GY PRC-139(C) PRC-89 PRC-6/180 PRC-78/GY PRC-139 PRC-62 KPRC-6 PRC-80S PRC-140 PRC-124 PRC-7 PRC-81 PRC-174 PRC-58 PRC-8 PRC-82 PRC-174S PRC-49 PRC-8A PRC-83 PRC-184 PRC-6/6 PRC-9 PRC-84 PRC-247 CPRC-26 PRC-9A PRC-85 DA/PRC-260 PRC-6 PRC-10 PRC-85K PRC-277 DA/PRC-261 PRC-10A PRC-86 UK/PRC-319 PRC-22 PRC-14 PRC-88 UK/PRC-320 PRC-27 PRC-15 PRC-88/GY UK/PRC-320/1 PRC-136 PRC-16 PRC-90 UK/PRC-321 PRC-56 PRC-17 PRC-90-1 UK/PRC-344 PRC-42 PRC-20/6 PRC-90-2 UK/PRC-349 PRC-52 PRC-21 PRC-90-2C UK/PRC-350 PRC-44 PRC-23 PRC-90-2T UK/PRC-351 PRC-87 PRC-24 PRC-90T UK/PRC-352 PRC-95 PRC-25 PRC-91 PRC-370 PRC-90 PRC-26 PRC-91A PRC-377 PRC-68A CPRC-26 PRC-93 P-PRC-400 PRC-68B PRC-28 PRC-94V PRC-416 PRC-515 PRC-29 PRC-94V1 PRC-420 PRC-521 PRC-30 PRC-94V2 P/PRC-425 PRC-10A PRC-32 PRC-94V3 PRC-436 PRC-28 PRC-33 PRC-96 PRC-439 PRC-33 PRC-34(XI) PRC-97 PRC-447 PRC-35(XC-2) PRC-99 PRC-502 PRC-36(X1) PRC-101 PRC-504 PRC-37 PRC-103 PRC-5O5 PRC-38 PRC-104 CPRC-508 PRC-39 PRC-104A CPRC-509 PRC-40 PRC-104B(V)1 CPRC-510 PRC-41 PRC-104B(V)2 PRC-515 PRC-46 PRC-104B(V)3 PRC-547 PRC-47 PRC-104B(V)4 PRC-549 PRC-49 PRC-105 BE/PRC-600/06 PRC-53 PRC-106 PRC-601 PRC-55 PRC-108 PRC-601S PRC-56 PRC-111 PRC-610 PRC-58 PRC-112(V) BE/PRC-611 PRC-59 PRC-112A PRC-613 PRC-61 PRC-113 PRC-614 PRC-62 PRC-113-3 PRC-638 PRC-63 PRC-113(V) PRC-660T PRC-64 PRC-113(V)1 PRC-660UV PRC-64A PRC-113(V-3) PRC-677 PRC-65 PRC-114 PRC-677A PRC-66 PRC-116 PRC-730 PRC-66B PRC-117 PRC-738 PRC-67 PRC-117A PRC-777 PRC-68 PRC-117B PRC-838 PRC-68A PRC-117C PRC-911/GY PRC-68B PRC-117D PRC-921/GY PRC-68B(V)2 PRC-118 BE/PRC-1012 PRC-68(X) PRC-119 PRC-1077 PRC-68(X-2) PRC-123V1 PRC-1088 PRC-68(X-4) PRC-123V2 PRC-1099 PRC-70 PRC-126 PRC-1200 PRC-70(ABN) PRC-127 PRC-1250 PRC-70(V)1 PRC-128(V) PRC-1300 PRC-70(VT-100) PRC-129 PRC-2000 PRC-71 PRC-130 PRC-2006 PRC-72 PRC-132 PRC-2061 PRC-73 PRC-133 PRC-2077 PRC-74 PRC-134(V)5(C) PRC-2200 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Format: Courier #8 font. Margins as follows, Top .5", Bottom .5", Left 1", Right 1", Header .2", Footer 0". *********************************************** GREEN BATTERIES, BEWARE! by Ralph Hogan A story to share: Green Batteries Beware, A word to the wise.... One day recently, I was trying out my just arrived 'new' ER79-T (A french PRC10) with the integral 'D' cell DC-DC supply. I pulled out one of my US PRC10's to check compatibility of supplies. I also pulled out my old reliable but still not dead BA-279 with late 70'ish/early 80s ? date code from the PRC10 and installed it in the ER79 which worked. While removing the BA-279 from the ER79, I noted a very slight odor. Not much more than all the old mil gear has, but something slightly amiss. I thought perhaps a cell had finally given up the ghost from the tx load current and popped (understandably as it was almost a million years old from the dinosaur age and I was amazed it was still working at all). Very prudently, I took the battery into the upstairs bathroom and removed the styrofoam cell holder from the cardboard outer box in hopes of perhaps seeing the problem. No dice, as we all know (been there, done that) about all that black sealing goo in the way. If a cell was leaking vital fluids, I didnt want it on my carpet or inside the PRC battery box or ruining the nice outer cardboard battery box cover. I'd previously had other BA-279's leak out over time. I assumed this was the case again. So for the time being, I left it sitting out on the upstairs bathroom vanity for later observation. I was downstairs, perhaps an hour or two later when I smelt something wrong. My wife who was upstairs at the exact same time had also become alerted. As I raced upstairs, I found the battery pack smoking, but hadn't yet triggered one of the house smoke alarms, maybe a mere 10' away. While several sources of water were right there, I decided (right or wrong) I didn't want it in my house anymore and ran it down the stairs toward an exit. (Now, its a humorous vision of me racing down the stairs with a smoke trail, but it was not funny right then...) With smoke erupting from the battery pack, the increased air flow as I ran wasn't the best thing I could have done. I was about six feet from the exit when it caught fire. Once outside, I got the small flames put out, but it would not stop its smoking death spiral until I performed surgery on the now burnt up remains of the battery connector with a pair of dykes. Post autopsy indicated a short had occured, with the fire at the battery connector. While installing or removing the battery either a wire broke loose and was shorting or two of the internal connector post had somehow shorted together. In any case, it was the wiring heating up and melting the insulation off that had started the fire. This is only the second time in about 30 years I have had one of my electronic widgets do this sort of thing behind my back unattended (in front of me is another story...). Lucky or unlucky? You tell me your story. I now look at my ole pile-o-green batteries with a wary eye and new respect. With hundreds of volts and sizeable filament current capacity with old age batteries, beware. A word to the wise. Ralph Hogan WB4TUR Huntsville, AL. ralph.hogan@vmic.com *********************************************** MEMBERS WRITE; Gibson Girl/NSG-2, Hi Dennis, Reference Backmail #31 page 4, regarding the "Gibson Girl" survival radio - I too used to do PMS on these in the '70s with the Royal Australian Air Force. I have a couple in my collection and was intrigued to learn that they were cloned from a German NSG-2. How can I get my hands on World Radio Wireless Beacon, March 1994 and July 1993 (or reprints)? Regards, Adrian ed) The Gibson Girl Still stands today as the longest lived radio in military history. I wish I had a copier, or access to one, I'd send you a copy of the artical in question, or maybe another member can. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom's House Cleaning,(it's about time!) Hi Dennis, I am selling a few things and I have the following for sale that I thought I would offer to this group before I try elsewhere. It is the RT-1136/G, part of the Magnavox MSC-64 sattelite communications shelter. I don't have much information on it. It covers 225-400 MHz. Has BITE, LCD readout, 10 memory channels. The transmit and receive frequencies are set independently. The input and outout appear to be 70MHz IF only for use with an external modem. The unit runs on 28VDC. I aslo have the modem control box but not the modem itself. The unit is clean and complete as near as I can tell but untested. The price is $200 plus shipping for the RT and the modem control box or I will happily consider trades for foreign military radios. I can email a photo if someone wants to look at it. Tom Bryan tbryan@nova.org *********************************************** NON-MEMBER STUFF AVAIL; Good morning Dennis; A copy of the note that I sent to Ed follows. Hello Ed; I talked to you last Saturday at the Radio Expo. The following is a list of the military radios I would like to find a home for. As far as prices are concerned, I am looking for offers, but generally I will let most items go for around $50 plus shipping. I will bargin on prices. The condition of most of the radios is very good, complete with no modifications except when noted. I have copies of manuals for many of the radios which I will include. If you are not interested, please share this with anyone who mignt be. BC312D RECEIVER BC369 RECEIVER OAP-1 RADAR TEST SET TCS-12 (CMX-46195 RX, COL-52245 TX, CBEO-20218 AC PWR SPLY, AND INTERCONNECTING CABLES) C400A/APW-11 DECODER RT-122A/APW-11 TRANSPONDER R425B/ARW-59 DRONE RX R355/ARR-8A COUNTERMEASURES RX TN-129B/APR-9 RADAR RX TUNING HEAD T-147/APT-9 RADAR JAMMER (MODIFIED, COMPLETE) T-85/APT-5 RADAR JAMMER, NEW R268B/ARN-8B RX ( ONE COVER MISSING) AM-1234/ASA-13 INTERPHONE AMP ARC-5 TX (3-4 MHZ) CV-89/URA-8 FSK CONVERTER ALSO HAVE THREE ASSORTED DYNAMOTORS AND SOME PLUG IN VIBERATOR POWER MODULES FOR MIL RADIOS. Thanks; Bob Bennett ed) I am informed he will be flexable on is quoted price. *********************************************** HUMOR; Walking up to a department store's fabric counter, a pretty girl asked, "I want to buy this material for a new dress. How much does it cost?" "Only a kiss a yard, " replied the smirking male clerk. "That's fine," replied the girl. "I'll take ten yards." With expectation and anticipation written all over his face, the clerk hurriedly measured out and wrapped the cloth, then held it out teasingly. The girl snapped up the package and pointed to a little old man standing beside her. "Grandpa will pay the bill," she smiled. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A man is sitting next to a woman on a jet which is getting ready to take off. Suddenly, the man sneezes. He unzips his pants and wipes the end of his penis off with his handkerchief. He zips up and continues reading his magazine. The woman cannot believe what she just saw. When he sneezes again, unzips, pulls out his penis and wipes it off with a handkerchief. The woman says, "Excuse me sir, but that is disgusting and rude, and if you do it again, I am going to call the flight attendant and have you removed from this plane." He says, "I am so sorry that I have offended you. I have this very rare, embarrassing physical handicap that causes me to orgasm every time I sneeze." The woman disarmed by the man's honesty and somewhat embarrassed by her own callousness, says with sympathy, "Oh you poor man, what are you taking for it?" "Pepper", he answers. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TEN REASONS WHY TRICK OR TREATING IS BETTER THAN SEX 10. You are guaranteed to at least get a little something in the sack. 9. If you get tired, you can wait 10 minutes and go at it again. 8. The uglier you look, the easier it is to get some. 7. You don't have to compliment the person who gives you some. 6. Its O.K. when the person you're with fantasize that you're someone else, because you are. 5. Forty years from now you will still enjoy candy. 4. If you don't like what you get, you can always go next door. 3. It does matter if the kids hear you moaning and groaning. 2. There's less guilt the morning after. 1. You can do the entire neighborhood! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph is driving home one evening when he suddenly realizes that it's his daughter's birthday and he hasn't bought her a present. He drives to the mall, runs to the toy store and says to the shop assistant, "How much is that Barbie in the window?" She says, "Which Barbie?" She continues, "We have Barbie Goes to the Gym for $19.95, Barbie Goes to the Ball for $19.95, Barbie Goes Shopping for $19.95, Barbie Goes to the Beach for $19.95, Barbie Goes Night clubbing for $19.95, and Divorced Barbie for $265.00". Ralph asks, "Why is the Divorced Barbie $265.00 when all the others are only $19.95?" "That's obvious" the sales lady says. "Divorced Barbie comes with Ken's house, Ken's car, Ken's boat, and Ken's furniture." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What will be the title of the movie made about the Clinton administration?" asks the Washington Times. Here are a few responses: Truth and Consequences Citizen Stain Prince of Ties The Bad News Bares Dumb and Dumber Lady and the Tramp The Big Lewinsky Dial M for Monica Willy Wonka and the Cigar Factory Saving Private Lyin' The Lying King Free Willy Animal Spouse Terms of Impeachment Hip, Hip, Beret The Full Monica Romancing the Phone Tiepanic Sex, Lies on Videotape Sex, Ties and Audiotape Waiting to Inhale The Eight Commandments Neither an Officer nor a Gentleman Honey, I Shrunk the Presidency The Me Lie Massacre Bedtime for Bubba --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Having passed the enlistment physical, Jon was asked by the doctor, "Why do you want to join the Navy, son?" "My father said it'd be a good idea, sir." "Oh? And what does your father do?" "He's in the Army, sir." --------------------------- The Army Airborne major was used to harassment from Air Force fliers about crazy Army paratroopers jumping out of perfectly good aircraft. "Obviously the Air Force knows there's no such thing as a 'perfectly good aircraft,'" the irritated officer finally countered one afternoon, "because they pay you bastards four times as much to stay in one as the Army pays its men to jump." "You've got it all wrong, Major," an Air Force sergeant replied. "The Army figures anyone stupid enough to jump out of an airplane voluntarily is gonna be too dumb to bitch about the salary." --------------------------- During training exercises, the lieutenant driving down a muddy back road encountered another car stuck in the mud with a red faced colonel at the wheel. "Your jeep stuck, sir?" asked the lieutenant as he pulled alongside. "Nope," replied the colonel, coming over and handing him the keys, "*Yours* is." --------------------------- Did you hear about the Polish Navy's tragic accident? A hundred and thirty-seven sailors drowned trying to push-start their new submarine. --------------------------- Young Amanpreet never quite got over his miserable childhood as an orphan in the ghetto. When he turned 18 he joined the Marines, but old habits die hard and one night the sergeant found him rummaging around the garbage and eating out of the discarded cans and jars. "On your feet, Lizard Pecker," he bellowed. "You'll eat in the message hall -- you're no better than the rest of us!" --------------------------- The Master Chief was inspecting the barracks and he overheard one terrified recruit whisper, "Master Chief Barnes has the heart of a tiny child . . . on his desk . . . in a jar." Without missing a beat, Master Chief Barnes snarled, "Goddamned if they don't find out EVERY little thing about you!" *********************************************** (The preceding was a product of the"Military Collector Group Post", an international email magazine dedicated to the preservation of history and the equipment that made it. Unlimited circulation of this material is authorized so long as the proper credits to the original authors, and publisher or this group are included. For more information conserning this group contact Dennis Starks at, military-radio-guy@juno.com) ***********************************************