MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, FEB.23/98 INDEX: OFF THE SHELF PRICK's; PART VII, Maybe's? by Dennis Starks MEMBERS WRITE; DAVE D's WANT's, & TRADE's; ON THE COMMERCIAL FRONT; HUMOR; *********************************************** OFF THE SHELF PRICK's; PART VII, Maybe's? by Dennis Starks Below is a list of PRC type radios that the presently available information is just too limited to allow speculation. Could these too have been Off the Shelf types? PRC-67;Personal portable VHF, FM transceiver. Lightweight self contained radio set for personal communication within a half mile of a central base station. Ops 40-44mc on one xtal control channel. RF output power is 160mw. Requires 10vdc. No further information. Ref.#29. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PRC-76; Portable radio set that provides two-way communications with any other FM radio sets operating between 70-80mc. With 1w RF output. No further information. A few years back, a medium sized quantity of Motorola HT-220 Slim Lines were repatriated from surplus Nato stocks in Germany. They operated in this frequency range, and had the same output power. Could these have been PRC-76's? I have several of them, and know where the rest can be found, but most, if not all, their data plates are missing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PRC-81; Original US Navy cost $1150.00, NSN 5820-00-6157. No further information. Ref.#28 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PRC-136; No description of this equipment has been found. It is known to have been built by Motorola, & purchased by the US Marine Corps at a cost of $2,347.00. NSN 5820-01-340-9438, no further information. Ref.#28 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I have documented all the known PRC designated radio equipment of all the countries of the world. They range from PRC-1 to PRC-6608, but this includes only about 230 radios. So it can be easily seen, there are yet many gaps in their numbers. Could these gaps represent other Off the Shelf types we don't know about? I think so. Especialy when we consider the dozens of commercial model radios, and their hundreds of variations, that were used by the military. Yes, there are several reasons for the present gaps in the PRC numbering system, and I have documented those too, the above is just one of several. The lack of a military data plate on most the radios in this family might lead us to wonder if they were ever supplied with one. Could all those thousands of commercial radios surplused by the military have been the Military/PRC radio all along? Dennis Starks; MILITARY RADIO COLLECTOR/HISTORIAN military-radio-guy@juno.com References: #1) MILITARY RADIO DATA, VOLUME I, PRC Designated Radio Equipment, by Dennis Starks (copies available from the author) #28) Federal Logistics Data on Compac Disc(Fed Log).1995 #29) AFP 100-14,May 1980. *********************************************** MEMBERS WRITE; #Dave, I just got a bunch more aircraft shit today. Why can I find that damn stuff but not the green? Dennis #It's a conspiracy. There's tons of green ground-pounder crap around, but my co-conspiritors and I make sure you *never* see it! We've combed the country and bought it all up and are hiding it from you! Then we send you aircraft stuff to drive you crazy! We're going to drive you to jumping off your tower so we can steal all your stuff at the estate auction. Our evil plan will succeed, and you are powerless to stop it! BWAAA-HAAA-HAAAA-HAAAA! Evilly Yours, Dave AB5S #Well, yer so far doin a damn good job! Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #Dennis, Do you or any of the crew know the history, use and application of the BC-728/SCR-593? It is a 4 channel 2to 6 mhz rec with 6 tubes and a vibrator power supply. It is about 5x5x12inches in dim with battery box. Many years ago I had one but stripped the gits out of it and the guts may be burried deep down in the basement. Any info would be appreciated. Keep up the good work. Thanks 73's KF4CBR Feb 20, 1998 8:19 am Jack Awbrey @Juno.com #Jack, see Mystery Radio; The GRR-5, MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, JAN.13/98. It describes the intended purpose of the radio, which was the same as the GRR-5, and makes several references to the BC-728. In the late 1970's Fair radio had a large quantity of these things that had come from service in Italy where they had been government rebuilt in 1972. The radio itself is not extremely rare, but is desirable. It's antenna, and shoulder strap/antenna lead is a bit hard to find. Of WW-II equipment, it is possibly the easiest one to get operational. It's BB-54 battery is fairly common, but I opt for a high current gell cell in mine. I could tell a humorous story about my use of the set, but not today. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #I am looking for any information on the development and use of BC-610 and HT-4. I have seen a lot of other military radios being discussed with regard to how they were used and what led up to their development but nothing on the BC-610. This appears to have been a very popular transmitter. Maybe I am missing something. Any references would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and 73's Mike, N6WIG email: mikhael_brown@hp.com # Mike, We've not published anything on the BC-610 here, mainly as I tend to stick with the historically neglected sets. And the SCR-299 was by no means neglected. I'd venture to say that it saw more publicity than any other WW-II vintage radio, it's history spans 30 years, from 1939-1969 and is very well documented. For info on the SCR-299, HT-4, BC-610 seek out the below books, they were avail from the GPO but you'll probably now need to go to the library. Also just about any war time electronic oriented magazine. U.S. Army in WW-II, The Signal Corps: The Emergency, by Dulany Terrett U.S. Army in WW-II, The Signal Corps: The Test, by Thompson, Harris, Oakes, and Terret U.S. Army in WW-II, The Signal Corps: The Outcome, by G.R. Thompson, and Dixie Harris Dennis *********************************************** DAVE D's WANT's, & TRADE's; Dennis here goes my list .the want list need not work just mostly complete wanted: -r-48/trc8 stuff .transmitters/ants/cables assec/ -grr-5 stuff. mounts/manuals/parts units etc -prc-6 radios manual/and parts radios and nice ones -r-108/109/110 rec -pp-112 power supplys -rt-66/67/68 rec -prc-8/9/10 -german prc-6 radios has the channel control were the aux ant conector is. trade list this stuff tradeable for anything military radio related.send list I have for trade the following stuff -prc-74 test set like new -3-isrealie prc-6s nice complete not tested/american prc-6 but isrealie tags -prc-68 radio ruff looking but works -frr-149 freq meter -ee8 field phones -bc-312 for parts or restore no dynomotor dont know if it works cabinet been repainted locks need work. -prc-90 looks good -military headphones used and some new -vrm-1 test set i think this is for the r-442 rec may be wrong on that -prc-47 ants and legs/ have 8 -prc-127 ants nos/ have 11 -bc-1000 ant short one nos / have 2 David Davidson tactcom@rocketmail.com *********************************************** ON THE COMMERCIAL FRONT; Haney Electronic Company: J-45, leg iron CW keys, Correct for BC-1306, GRC-9, GRC-109, and PRC-47. These are new old stock units most still in original packaging, several contract dates from 1968 to 1980's. They include cord CD-201A with PJ-055B connector. The member price is $20.00ea, plus shipping. ed) except for the cord, the J-45 is identical to the KY-? used with the latter model equipment like the GRC-106. AS-2975, PRC-70 dipole antenna kit. Unused Similar to that use with the PRC-74 differing mainly in the balun it uses. The member price is $25.00ea, plus shipping ed) as the freq range of the PRC-70 is 2-79mc, and it's output 50ohms, these antennas should be good for just about any portable radio application. Quoted prices are good to group members only. To place an order contact Steve Haney at , If you have trouble with this address, try , or call 817-496-3346. ed) I've known Steve for several years, and have conducted numerous transactions, including trades, with him. You can deal with him in total confidence. The prices he has quoted us are well under that you'd expect to pay elsewhere, even at a hamfest, especially that of the J-45's. *********************************************** HUMOR; WHAT IS POLITICS? "Dad, I have to do a special report for school. Can I ask you a question? "Sure son, what's the question?" "What is politics?" "Well, let's take our home for an example. I'm the wage earner, so lets call me "Capitalism". Your mother is the administrator of the money, so we'll call her "Government". We take care of you and your needs, so lets call you "the people". We'll call the maid "the working class" and your baby brother "the future". Do you understand, son?" "I'm not really sure, dad. I'll have to think about it." That night, awakened by his baby brother crying, the boy went to see what was wrong. Discovering that the baby had seriously soiled his diaper, the boy went to his parents' room and found his mother sound asleep. He then went to the maid's room and saw his father in bed with the maid. The boy's knocking went totally unheard by his father and the maid, so the boy returned to his room and went back to sleep. The next morning he reported to his father, "Dad, now I think I understand what politics is all about." "Good, Son. Can you explain it to me in your own words?" "Well, while Capitalism is screwing the Working Class and the Government is sound asleep, the People are being completely ignored and the Future is full of shit." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Similarities between Nixon and Clinton: Nixon: Watergate Clinton: Waterbed Nixon: His biggest fear was the Cold War Clinton: His biggest fear is a Cold Sore Nixon: Carpet bombing Clinton: Carpet burning Nixon: His Vice President was a Greek Clinton: His Vice President is a geek Nixon: Couldn't stop Kissinger Clinton: Couldn't stop kissing her Nixon: Couldn't explain the 18-minute gap in the Watergate tape. Clinton: Couldn't explain the 36-DD bra in his briefcase. Nixon: His name was Tricky Dick Clinton: No difference Nixon: Ex-president Clinton: Sex president Nixon: Known for campaign slogan "Nixon's the one." Clinton: Known for women pointing at him and saying "He's the one." Nixon: Famous for his widow's peak Clinton: Famous for bringing widows to their peak. Nixon: Well-acquainted with G. Gordon Liddy Clinton: Well acquainted with the G-spot Nixon: Took on Ho Chi Minh Clinton: Took on ho Nixon: Talked of achieving peace with honor Clinton: Talked of getting a piece while on her ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Upon landing hard, the pilot gets on the PA system, "Sorry folks for the hard landing. It wasn't the pilot's fault, and it wasn't the plane's fault. It was the asphalt." An airline pilot wrote that on this particular flight he had hammered his ship into the runway really hard. The airline had a policy which required the first officer to stand at the door while the passengers exited, give a smile, and a "Thanks for flying XYZ" airline." He said that in light of his bad landing, he had a hard time looking the passengers in the eye, thinking that someone would have a smart comment. Finally everyone had gotten off except for little old lady walking with a cane. She said, "Sonny, mind if I ask you a question?" "Why no" said the pilot, Ma'am, what is it?" The little old lady said, "Did we land or were we shot down?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From a disgruntled Southwest Airlines employee...."Welcome aboard Southwest Flight XXX, to YYY. To operate your seat belt, insert the metal tab into the buckle, and pull tight. It works just like every other seat belt, and if you don't know how to operate one, you probably shouldn't be out in public unsupervised. In the event of a sudden loss of cabin pressure, oxygen masks will descend from the ceiling. Stop screaming, grab the mask, and pull it over your face. If you have a small child traveling with you, secure your mask before assisting with theirs. If you are traveling with two small children, decide now which one you love more. Weather at our destination is 50 degrees with some broken clouds, but they'll try to have them fixed before we arrive. Thank you, and remember, nobody loves you, or your money, more than Southwest Airlines." --------------------------------------------------------------------- United Airlines FA: "Ladies and Gentlemen, as you are all now painfully aware, our Captain has landed in Seattle. From all of us at United Airlines we'd like to thank you for flying with us today and please be very careful as you open the overhead bins as you may be killed by falling luggage that shifted during our so called "touch down." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- About 5 or 6 years ago I was on an American Airlines flight into Amarillo, Texas on a particularly windy and bumpy day. I could tell during the final that the Captain was really having to fight it, and after an extremely hard landing, the Flight Attendant came on the PA and announces, "Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Amarillo. Please remain in your seats with your seat belt fastened while the Captain taxis what's left of our airplane to the gate!" Another flight Attendant's comment on a less than perfect landing: "We ask you to please remain seated as Captain Kangaroo bounces us to the terminal *********************************************** (The preceding was a product of the"Military Collector Group Post", an international email magazine dedicated to the preservation of history and the equipment that made it. Unlimited circulation of this material is authorized so long as the proper credits to the original authors, and publisher are included. For more information conserning this group contact Dennis Starks at, military-radio-guy@juno.com)