From: military-radio-guy Full-Name: Dennis R Starks To: military radio collectors#4 Fcc: Sent Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:36:47 -0600 Subject: MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, Nov.1/99 Message-ID: <19991101.043815.10926.4.military-radio-guy@juno.com> X-Status: Sent X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 MILITARY COLLECTOR GROUP POST, Nov.1/99 Index: DEMILL SPECIAL TASK FORCE; EXPERIMENTAL REPEATER UP ON 51.6; WHATSIT; Motorola URW? ON THE COMMERCIAL FRONT; 88mh Toriods, French PRC-6, -10 Power Supplies, HUMOR; *********************************************** DEMILL SPECIAL TASK FORCE; Hello Everybody: As you all undoubtedly know, the DRMS has opened the door to the DoD for us regarding the re-evaluation of equipment in order to change its' DEMIL Coding to DEMIL Code "A" (no DEMIL required)! I was successful in getting them to re-evaluate and change the DEMIL Coding on several items including the FRC-93, R-390, R-390A, R-725 and R-392. The letter from the DRMS may be read at: www.thebizlink.com/am/drms/drms.htm There is more information on the Collins Collectors Association Web site: www.collinsradio.org This accomplishment was far more than I ever expected, even in the wildest stretches of my imagination! I am delighted of course but I cannot take too much credit for this incredible achievement. My contact at the DRMS is the one who is really the one to thank. Without her understanding of the situation, sympathy and well placed help this would have never been more than just a routine press inquiry and boiler-plate justification platitudes of which we all have seem way too many in our lives. Now the real work begins. We were given a DRMS Point of Contact person and a phone number. Therefore it is indicative on our part to use this contact. Now that my goal has been reached I feel it is time for me to step back and let others take over. I would like to set up a special "task force" to review all the known military radio communication equipment, determine its' Federal Stock Number(FSN) and submit a request to the DRMS that these items be similarly modified. Once this is done I would like to try to find out what equipment inventories still remains in DoD and DRMS custody and finally try to work out a fair and equitable method of them selling anything unneeded to the radio community or to companies that are known to be "hobby-friendly", such as Fair Radio Sales of Lima Ohio. In addition we now must share this information with our brethren in other hobby endeavors; namely the aircraft, military vehicle and re-enactor groups. They too had to suffer the indignity of having their toys similarly "demilitarized". However we should co-ordinate the effort because we don't want to overswamp them with requests so I do not plan to share the contact until we get to know them better. Finally we have to look into the methodology presently used by the DRMS to dispose of this excess government property. Presently I understand they award "Commercial Venture" (CV) term sales contracts to private contractors. The first contract was awarded to Levy/Latham L.L.C. on a "proceeds sharing" basis. 312 Federal Supply Classification (FSC) lots were sold through this contract. www.levylatham.com The DRMS is preparing to award a second CV contract. More information may be viewed at: www.drms.dla.mil It will be the immediate task of the Special Task Force to look into this matter. This will definitely be an interesting and exciting time for the vintage equipment hobbies! With amateur radio nets, the Internet mailing lists, newsgroups and Web sites at our disposal we can really make a big bang now and garner a lot of very positive publicity for the Vintage Communications Equipment subset of Amateur Radio. A special mailing list has been set up to facilitate the work of this Special Task Force. Please consider this message as a personal invitation to participate in the DEMIL Special Task Force. You have been chosen because I feel you have something to contribute to this cause. If you would like to help us please reply to this message and let me know. Your name and e-mail address will be subscribed to the special mailing list. I have sent out this message as bcc:s so no one will know who else is being invited. If you have someone who you feel would be a good contributor please feel free to suggest them. They must have e-mail capabilities. I figure we have until January 2001 at the latest to complete this task. A change of administration in Washington could slam the door shut again. I look forward to hearing from you. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Guys! Several days ago I sent you all a message inviting you to help out in the effort to save radios from destruction by the guvmint bureaucrats. Please let me know if you did not get it. Early next week I will be setting up a special mail reflector and will subscribe the initial members. If you do not wish to be subscribed to this mailing list please let me know before Monday. I do not wish to add to your mail load if you are not really interested. However you may opt for a digest of the list so you would not necessarily have to receive every message sent to the list separately. There is a fair amount of work to do but if we spread it around it won't take up that much time. 73, Michael Crestohl W1RC Chief Perpetrator ed) for more information on this subject, see: MCGP, Oct.18/99 DRMO MODIFIES DESTRUCTION ORDER OF SELECTED COLLINS EQUIPMENT; *********************************************** EXPERIMENTAL REPEATER UP ON 51.6; Ray KA3EKH and Breck /AB1 K4CHE have installed a simplex repeater at Seaford DE on a frequency of 51.6 Mcs. The system is on a TEST basis to serve as a catalyst for military radio activity on the Eastern Shore .An omni directional antenna is being used and the height is over 400 feet. The PL code is 150 cycles and is continuously transmitted but is not required to access the receiver. Transmit deviation is set at 7 Kcs. The receiver will accommodate wide band transmissions up to 8 to 9 kcs and then it distorts. Maximum length of transmission is 20 seconds using a standard ISD voice chip. A CW ider is automatically sent every 5 minutes with the call of K4CHE/R. Try to access the repeater during band openings and other enhanced conditions. Please send reception reports to smithAB1@bellatlantic.net *********************************************** WHATSIT; Motorola URW? I have a green radio of some sort that I need to identify. It was made by Motorola. The only real nomenclature on the tag is: Receiver, URW It is a small, almost cube shaped set. Over half the size is for a BB-390 battery. There is a pull up whip (not tape, but very much like your typical scanner antenna) on a BNC connector stored under a covered, screw-on, clamp which also serves to hold the battery in place. The antenna fits on a BNC connector on top. There is a multipin connector on the front along with a couple of switches. Joseph W Pinner + Kingston, TN KC5IJD / NNN0PHR EMail: kc5ijd@sprintmail.com *********************************************** ON THE COMMERCIAL FRONT; 88mh Toriods, From: Maurice Weinschenker RE: 88 mhy Toroids FS Still trying to empty attic etc. Never wl be finished. Found a large bunch of 88 mhy toroids. If anyone needs them 1.20 ea. plus postage. Best 73 Morry K3DPJ ----------------------------------------------------------------- French PRC-6, -10 Power Supplies, Hello Dennis can broadcast this msg to the group if you think it may interrest members Good news for the PRC-6 lovers!! If you have one of this set and cry about the disapearance of the BA-270 , here is a site where you can find the French BA-491A It's an inverter operating on 9 type D drycell,stricly the same size than the battery;it was a contract for the French Army and the equipment is new ,was made by "SOMELEC"' around 1983 .When the inverter is fittes with alkaline battery the weight is important,I suggest to use CD/NI AA size 0,9 or 1,5 Amp Empty weight is 600 grammes. The price is 25$ a piece. The site is : www.chez.com/castiaufrance ; click (catalogue) then after (optique transmission) and look for the item 929. Another interresting item is the 930 for the PRC-8/9/10 it does replace the battery and operate on 4 dry cells of 15 volts each,they are in serial and paralell to give an operating voltage of 30 volts (between 24 and 30 V) the price is around 50$. A third one (not in the list) called AQ-1 it is a power supply the same size the battery case (slightly higher) input voltage 12 or 24 volts DC selectable, the transceiver is monted on the AQ-1 there is a linking cable between the PRC and The AQ-1, there is loudspeaker connector, handset connector , the operation is controlled by the PRC-10 (AQ-1 was a miltary equipment that does include also a loud speaker amplifier) The price of this one is around 93 $. For all the people not familliar with french language!! TBE means very good condition ; BE good condition ; EN brand new That resaler is known on the place,no problem. He can send to USA without problem,He is not Visa or Amex so be ready for a postal or bank transfert. Dennis if i give you that commercial info it is because these item are very special and were never manufactured or distributed in USA (PRC-6 was at the end of this live when the transistor start to be used everywhere!!) *********************************************** HUMOR; If little green men come to invade us, would their radios be flesh color? ----------------------------------------------------------------- There will be two less holidays in D.C. next year. Halloween and Thanksgiving have been canceled. The witch is moving to New York and she's taking the turkey with her. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: How to have a safe Halloween Just in case you have forgotten "the rules". Please use these helpful hints this and every year. Happy Halloween! 1.- When it appears that you have killed the monster, NEVER check to see if it's really dead. 2.- Never read a book of demon summoning aloud, even as a joke. 3.- Do not search the basement, especially if the power has gone out. 4.- If your children speak to you in Latin or any other language which they should not know, shoot them immediately. It will save you a lot of grief in the long run. However, it will probably take several rounds to kill them, so be prepared. This also applies to kids who speak with somebody else's voice. 5.- When you have the benefit of numbers, NEVER pair off and go alone. 6.- As a general rule, don't solve puzzles that open portals to Hell. 7.- Never stand in, on, or above a grave, tomb, or crypt. This would apply to any other house of the dead as well. 8.- If you're searching for something which caused a loud noise and find out that it's just the cat, GET THE HELL OUT! 9.- If appliances start operating by themselves, do not check for short circuits; just get out. 10.- Do not take ANYTHING from the dead. 11.- If you find a town which looks deserted, there's probably a good reason for it. Don't stop and look around. 12.- Don't fool with recombinant DNA technology unless you're sure you know what you're doing. 13.- If you're running from the monster, expect to trip or fall down at least twice, more if you are of the female persuasion. Also note that, despite the fact that you are running and the monster is merely shambling along, it's still moving fast enough to catch up with you. 14.- If your companions suddenly begin to exhibit uncharacteristic behavior such as hissing, fascination for blood, glowing eyes, increasing hairiness, and so on, kill them immediately. 15.- Stay away from certain geographical locations, some of which are listed here: Amityville, Elm Street, Transylvania, Nilbog (you're in trouble if you recognize this one), anywhere in Texas where chainsaws are sold, the Bermuda Triangle, or any small town in Maine. 16.- If your car runs out of gas at night on a lonely road, do not go to the nearby deserted-looking house to phone for help. If you think that it is strange you ran out of gas because you thought you had most of a tank, shoot yourself instead. You are going to die anyway, and most likely be eaten. 17.- Beware of strangers bearing strange tools. For example: chainsaws, staple guns, hedge trimmers, electric carving knives, combines, lawnmowers, butane torches, soldering irons, band saws, or any devices made from deceased companions. 18. - If you find that your house is built upon a cemetery, now is the time to move in with the in-laws. This also applies to houses that had previous inhabitants who went mad or committed suicide or died in some horrible fashion, or had inhabitants who performed satanic practices in your house. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I am hereby officially tendering my resignation as an adult. I have decided I would like to accept the responsibilities of an 8 year old again. I want to go to McDonald's and think that it's a four star restaurant. I want to sail sticks across a fresh mud puddle and make ripples with rocks. I want to think M&Ms are better than money because you can eat them. I want to lie under a big oak tree and run a lemonade stand with my friends on a hot summer's day. I want to return to a time when life was simple. When all you knew were colors, multiplication tables, and nursery rhymes, but that didn't bother you, because you didn't know what you didn't know and you didn't care. All you knew was to be happy because you were blissfully unaware of all the things that should make you worried or upset. I want to think the world is fair. That everyone is honest and good. I want to believe that anything is possible. I want to be oblivious to the complexities of life and be overly excited by the little things again. I want to live simple again. I don't want my day to consist of computer crashes, mountains of paperwork, depressing news, how to survive more days in the month than there is money in the bank, doctor bills, gossip, illness, and loss of loved ones. I want to believe in the power of smiles, hugs, a kind word, truth, justice, peace, dreams, the imagination, mankind, and making angels in the snow So....here's my checkbook and my car-keys, mycredit card bills and my 401K statements. I am officially resigning from adulthood.And if you want to discuss this further, you'll have to catch me first, cause, "Tag! You're it." ----------------------------------------------------------------- A man was walking home alone late one night when he hears a BUMP... BUMP... BUMP... behind him. Walking faster he looks back, and makes out the image of an upright coffin banging its way down the middle of the street towards him ... BUMP... BUMP... BUMP.. . Terrified, the man begins to run towards his home, the coffin bouncing quickly behind him ... faster...faster... ... BUMP... BUMP...BUMP. He runs up to his door, fumbles with his keys, opens the door, rushes in, slams and locks the door behind him. However, the coffin crashes through his door, with the lid of the coffin clapping ... clappity-BUMP... clappity-BUMP...clappity-BUMP... on the heals of the terrified man. Rushing upstairs to the bathroom, the man locks himself in. His heart is pounding; his head is reeling; his breath is coming in sobbing gasps. With a loud CRASH the coffin breaks down the door. Bumping and clapping towards him. The man screams and reaches for something, anything ... but all he can find is a box of cough drops! Desperate, he throws the coughdrops at the coffin ... and of course..... ... the coffin stops Happy Halloween *********************************************** The preceding was a product of the"Military Collector Group Post", an international email magazine dedicated to the preservation of history and the equipment that made it. Unlimited circulation of this material is authorized so long as the proper credits to the original authors, and publisher or this group are included. For more information concerning this group or membership contact Dennis Starks at, . A list of selected articles of interest to members can be seen at: http://www.softcom.net/users/buzz/backmail.html ***********************************************