BB guns are part of the Air Gun (Wiki) group. The two most common calibers of Pellet guns (Wiki) are 0.177 and 0.22. Where the 0.177 pellet is the same size as a BB and the 0.22 is the same size as the 22 rim fire (Wiki) bullet.
The Daisy Model 120 is a 0.177 caliber pellet gun. I think it also shoots BBs.
Also see my Popguns web page since Daily made many of those.
These are what's called Spring Piston air guns (Wiki). If the metal coil spring is replaced by gas the gun is called a Gas Piston air gun (Wiki). These have a number of advantages over Spring Piston air guns, the main one being more accuracy, less movement and quieter.
What today are called pellet guns, i.e. compressed air powered were called Gas Operated Firearms in the 1800s patents.
Later patents(starting about 1900) use the term "gas operated firearms" for semi or full auto guns that are powered by the gas generated from the cartridge.
Fig 1 Daisy 1938B BB Gun "Red Ryder"
The "Red Ryder" is mainly used by visiting boys. BBs are the most economical way to have fun plinking (Wiki).
Daisy 1938B BB Gun "Red Ryder"
Fig 3 Daisy 95B
|Fig 5 Model 25 Pump action BB gun
|Fig 6 Model 25 Pump action BB gun|
Fig 7 Daisy Model 120.177 cal. break barrel which Daisy imported 1984-1985, it was made by El Gamo of Spain
|Fig 8 Daisy Model 120
|Fig 9 Daisy Model 120 (photo has but cut
|Fig 1 Front of package
||Fig 2 Back of package
||Fig 3 In the box - 3mm hex wrench,
cleaning cloth, 2-way lens cap (clear or yellow filter)
||Fig 4 Compare CenterPoint 4x32 with Daisy
The CenterPoint is more than twice the objective dia
plus the CenterPoint scope has optical coatings and it looks like the Daisy is raw glass.
|Fig 5 View through the Daisy 4x15mm
||Fig 6 The view through the CenterPoint is
brighter and with better colors. Note the cross
hairs are thick near the edges and narrow at the center.
||Fig 7 One Click = 1/4" @ 100 Yards.
||Fig 8 First shots would not even hit
8-1/2 x 11 paper.
Notice the elevation wheel is all the way down and still not enough, so shimmed under the front ring to raise front of scope using a double thickness of 3x5 card.
|Fig 9 Rear patio table, with 80mm 20-60X
Spotting scope to save a
lot of walking. Note paper shim under front ring.
||Fig 10 Added cardboard box to confirm
initial shooting very high. But even after
screwing elevation all the way down was still many
Napier pellet lube - is it worth the trouble along with
sorting pellets by weight? let
The thing that recommends this model is that there are a large number of modifications available to fit this .177 caliber pistol and the companion P1322 pistol in .22 caliber. As well as being reasonably priced on Amazon prime (about $50 including shipping).
The problem I have is my eyes will no focus on the rear sight, front sight and target all at the same time, so am looking into getting the 459MT Crossman P13xx to 3/8" adapter and a 3/8" rail pistol scope.
This problem of focusing on the target, front sight and rear sight all at the same time as well as the problems of the telescopic sight were addressed by Sir Howard Grubb F.R.S. in his August 1901 paper titled A New Collimating-Telescope Gun-Sight for Large and Small Ordnance. This was the invention of the Reflex or Reflector (Wiki) sight, aka: Red Dot sight. The key feature is that the reticle and the target are both at infinity so your eye does not need to refocus.
Mount Fig 1 - 459MT 3/8" Crosman mount for 7/16" barrel
Mount Fig 2 - 459MT on 1377 pistol
1x30 Wizard Red/Green Dot Scope
Fig 1: Wizard 1x30mm Red/ Green Dot Scope
Marked: Southland Archery Supply SAS
The dot is focused at infinity so when it's in focus for a photo the sight itself is very out of focus.
Fig 3 The mounting can be reversed to work with either
7/8" or in this case 3/8" dovetails. It did not clamp so some 3x5 card stock was used to ship the 459MT to be wider.
Crosman Shoulder Stock
ACOG Style 1x32 Red/Green Dot Sight
Fig 1 ACOG Style 1x32 Red/Green Dot Sight (See: ACOG)
Fig 2 Generic instructions photo does not match scope.
Cleaning cloth & hex wrench, but to battery!
Fig 3 At the bottom right is a battery symbol and polarity marks, but
not information about what p/n battery to use.
Fig 4 Three each LR936 (194) button cell batteries
(+) to the left as shown in the diagram.
9.5mm dia x 3.41mm hi 1.6 Volts
The problem with the 459MT mount or maybe with the barrel itself is that when side force is applied to the scope the barrel twists. It's very rubbery. Maybe moving the mount all the way to the back or to the front would make for a more stable setup?
The actual size of a target is not as important is the angle it subtends. 1 Minute Of Angle (MOA) is about 1" at 100 yards.
Crosman Squirrel Reset Target (CSRT)
This is a pellet only target (.177 up to 1200 F/s or .22 up tp 950 F/s. When the main target is hit it falls back out of sight, when the lower reset target is hit the main target reappears.
Yellow targets are 1/8" think, black background is 0.1" thick. Height from top to tail to point of stake is 19".
Fig 2 Main target 1.4" dia
Reset target is 2" dia.
1032060 Target, William E Hawthorne, Daisy Mfg Co, Jul 9, 1912, 273/382 - gong on post rings for bulls-eye.
1036879 Target, Walter Curtis Miner, Aug 27, 1912, 273/388 - Main target and reset target made from same piece of metal betn at 90 degrees. Leaf spring holds in one of two positions.
3212488 Toy Gun, Carl Merl, Hirsch Mahlon E, Marx & Co Louis, Oct 19, 1965, 124/82, 446/193, 42/57, 124/2 - cap rifle that ejects cartridges
2978598 Motor available for toys
Spring Gun, C.F. Lefever (Daisy Mfg), May 19 1914, -
Pump Action (Model 25)
|Model 25 Fig 1
Model 25 Fig 3 Shipped with stock off, not using take-down screw.
|Fig 7 Cocking
|Fig 8 Barrel &
BB Tube, muzzle at right
Model 25 Fig 10 - very old example
Fixed front sight, so 1916 or later.
|Fig 11 Label w/Patent Numbers
Daisy No 25
Daisy Mfg. Co.
Plymouth, Mich. U.S.A. (so pre 1958, "Rodgers, Arkansas" for post 1958).
1097244 Spring Gun, C.F. Lefever (Daisy Mfg), May 19 1914, - First Pump Action patent (Model 25)
1114491 Shot Magazine for Spring Air Guns, C.F. Lefever (Daisy Mfg),Oct 20 1914, - feed is independent of gun position
1136470 Spring Air Gun, C.F. Lefever (Daisy Mfg), Apr 20 1915, - Compound pump action, one screw (H) take down
1220649 Magazine-barrel for air-guns, Charles F Lefever, Daisy Mfg Co, Mar 27, 1917, 124/52 - see Fig 8 above
1573383 Air gun, Charles F Lefever, Daisy Mfg Co, Feb 16, 1926, 124/49 - spring flap to allow loading BB & not spill them
|Fig 12 Top to bottom:
Daisy No. 120 break action w/scope
Daisy No. 25 (new)
Daisy No. 25 (old)
|Fig 13 Remove 1 thumb screw (1136470
"H") and break down into two easy to ship/store parts
Notice the trigger spring is sticking out on the back side of the trigger. Maybe explains why the trigger is all the way back?
The piston assembly and barrel/magazine are missing.
Reinforcing rib on pump linkage, so after 1915
Rounded rear on trigger guard, s0 1930 or newer
Rear of receiver over stock tang, so 1930 or newer
Maybe missing pump guide rod is because it was a claw type, so 1914 to 1931
Cone take down screw, so 1927 or later
Pistol grip stock, so 1930 - 1953
S Wells, Daisy
Mfg Co, Jun 10, 1958, - slide
switch safety - OT No. M417157 - Model 1105
The Nelson Paint Company made the 0.68" diameter paint balls for marking trees and cattle.
2743959 Paint marking apparatus, Charles J Nelson, Evan S Nelson, 1956-05-01, - has the look and feel of a pump type oil can.
Cites:The Crosman 707 CO2 pellet pistol was patented and later used as the basis of their paint ball marker pistol custom made (Nelspot 007) for Nelson Paint.
1900668 Liquid gun, Harold A Roselund, De Vilbiss, 1933-03-07, - for oil, not paint.
Later Nelson Paint made their own "Nelspot 007 Challenger"
8430086 Non-lethal pistol, Dennis J. Tippmann, Jr., Jeffrey P. Douglas, Kyle D. Smith, Bryce A. Carrico, Tippmann Sports, 2013-04-30, - TiPX marker pistol.
Pyramydair Gun Mall: Airgun Academy: Daisy 25 dating information – Part 1, Daisy 25 dating information – Part 2Back to Brooke's Products for Sale, PRC68, Alphabetical Index of web pages, Home web page
Airguns of Arizona -
Beemans.net: New Evidence on the Lewis and Clark Air Rifle – an “Assault Rifle” of 1803 - used on the Lewis & Clark expedition.
YouTube: Forgotten Weapons - Girardoni Air Gun (original 1780 example) -
There are PCP (Pre-Charged Pneumatic) air guns (Wiki)
FX Outdoors - YouTube:
These Air Rifles are as Powerful As A 22, Will it Replace Rimfire?, 17:54 - mostly about thePanthera. Impact M3 mentioned at end.
page created 5 July 2010.