This is the most modern military VHF Low Band FM radio I have as of December 2019. After receipt it was not at all clear that it would interoperate with older VHF Low Band FM radios, but after getting the operation manual I now see that this can be done. See top center photo where Tx and Rx frequencies are set to 51 MHz.
The PRC-152 (Wiki) is the U.S. version of this radio that contains voice and data encryption good up to TOP SECRET and so can not be exported and is not available on the commercial market. The RF-5800V-HH (Hand Held) uses Citadel (L3Harris) for voice and data encryption and so is exportable and is commercially available. This may be one of the radios held up in the Trump-Ukraine scandal (Wiki). See the message (apparently sent on August 26, 2019) on page 112 of the Dec 20, 2019 FOIA document release from the DOD obtained by Public Integrity.
Introduced in 2001 Harris Corporation Introduces Falcon(tm) II VHF Handheld Digital Radio. Sold to a number of foreign countries probably under FMS (Wiki), FMF (Wiki).
When I got the RF-5800V-HH radio I thought it was civilian version of the PRC-152 since it looks that way at a glance. But . . . the side connector is very different and not at all interchangeable. That means that any accessories that work with the side connector on the PRC-152 will NOT work on the RF-5800V-HH. See: Fig 4 comparing the side connector with a PRC-148 cable and a PRC-152 cable.
But . . . it appears at first glance that the side connector on the RF-5800V-HH is the same as on the MBITR PRC-148 (Wiki). See the Military Radio AN/PRC-148 (MBITR) Data Controller Cable. More work needs to be done to confirm this.
These web pages (PRC68.com) are named for the first handheld squad radio, the PRC-68, that replaces most of the functionality of the PRC-25 or PRC-77 manpack radios. The PRC-68 expanded into a family of handheld radios that all use the same battery and accessories.
The radios on this page replace not only the SINCGARS radios like the RT-1439 and RT-1523 manpack radios but also other radio systems that contain various cryptographic functions. Some also have low level network capability (messages & email but not video or large files). Some have two channels (the first two letters of SINCGARS stand for Single Channel) which allows some fancy things.
In a similar way this radio is part of a new family that all use a twist on battery, but there appears to be different side connector families.
There is a slight difference in how the U-229 audio connector works on the RF-5800V-HH in that the speaker does not automatically silence when an external speaker or headphone is connected.
This is the civilian version of the Harris PRC-152 Hand Held radio.Also see my PRC-152 paint ball replica radio.
The RF-310M-HH is the civilian version of the PRC-152. not the RF-5800V-HH. (Thanks to Eugene W2HX)
Frequency: 30 to 107.99999 MHz FM with deviation of 5, 6.5 or 8 kHz (so will not work as FM radio station). Note that many of the other radios that use the twist lock battery go to 512 MHz
It can be used to interoperate with the PRC-25, PRC-77 and the PRC-68 Family as well as pretty much any existing VHF Low Band FM military radio in addition to more modern radios like the SINCGARS family.
Some of the radios on this page are called Multi-Band meaning the cover two or more bands like VHF Low, VHF High, UHF FM, UHF AM. Some are called Multi-Channel.
The RF-5800V-HH radio antenna connection is a standard TNCm connector.
This radio came with:
13" rubber duck antenna marked: Thales, Ant, broadband BFT, 23386 10600500-2 and a
49" tape whip (including a goose neck base) marked: Thales, Antenna, Blade, 23386 1600629-1
The battery bar graph shows 100% when the voltage is 12.6 VDC. 80% is 12.2 VDC. There is no specified voltage range, but it's nominally a "12 Volt" radio.
The radio came with a Harris battery adapter that holds 10 each CR123 batteries. Marked: L123 Battery Holder, p/n: 12505-2005-01, m/n: RF-591-PS002
The RF-5800V-HH does NOT use a Hold Up Battery (HUB).
One of the earliest twist on hand held radio batteries may be the BB-521/U used on the PRC-521/PRC-6725/PRC-139. This was an eight cell Ni-MH battery so had a terminal voltage of 9.6 Volts.
These are rated for between 12 and 24 hours depending on mode and output power level.
The two mounting lugs are ground. The ring contact is +12.5V on a fully charged battery and drops to 10.8V when the battery is dead.
The center contact function is TBD.
The function of the charging contacts is TBD.
Fig 1 There are markings stamped into the plastic that are almost invisible.
The bottom charging contacts are not symmetrical about the centerline of the battery. But they have the same pattern, i.e. 2 contacts, space, 2 contacts.
The CH001 charger has 7 pogo-pin contacts.
Harris 12050-2005-01 (10 each CR123) Non-rechargeable Adapter
Holds 10 each CR123A or other CR123 family batteries. 3-1/2" high.
There are two strings of five cells combined with a diode OR gate.
So the terminal voltage is (5 * 3.1) - 0.6 = 14.9 V but that does not match the measured 13.6 V.
So, maybe there is a voltage regulator chip that drops the 5 series battery voltage of 15 to 16 V down to 13.6?
Do not crush, disassemble, reverse polarity or dispose of in fire. Do not attempt to charge.
L123 Battery Holder
CAGE: 14304, USA
WARNING - Do not mix battery types or chemistries.
Do not mix old and new batteries - dispose of batteries properly.
Thales 12050-2005-01 (12 each CR123) Non-rechargeable AdapterNSN: 6160-01-487-1151
Holds 12 each CR123A batteries. It's not clear how they are arranged.
Non-Rechargeable Battery Holder
23386 Assy: 4101240-501
Use DL123 Lithium Battery 3V
* Do not incinerate
* Do not expose to high heat
* Temperature 21 deg max
* Lithium battery dispose of properly
Harris 1250-2001-01 (16 each AA) Non-rechargeable Adapter
Holds 16 each AA batteries. This battery adapter is 5-3/4" high, much taller than all the other stand-alone battery options.
Maybe two strings of 8 series (8 * 1.5 V = 12 V).
Do not crush, dissemble, reverse polarity, or dispose of in fire.
Do not attempt to charge.
AA Battery Holder
Mfr: 14304 USA
Do not mix battery types or chemistry.
Do no mix old and new batteries.
Dispose of batteries properly.
McDowell Research MRC-41-1 BB-5590 Family Remote Adapter
This consists of two parts, the battery box and the adapter cable.
Fig 1 as received new condition
A box that holds one each BA-5590 family battery. It has a BX07A8-3SW connector. The two "12 Volt" sides of the battery are probably wired in parallel for a nominal 12 VDC output. The Cable adapter is marked "12.0 V Nom. 5.0 A Max".
A cable from the box to an adapter that has the bayonet connection that connects to the bottom of the radio. The battery box cable connector is the MS3116F8-3PW.
23386 p/n: 4101441-501 Rev: J
12.0 V Nom. 5.0 A Max Made in USA
s/n: 03023 THALES
Outer Ears: Ground
Can operate from AC mains or DC battery using one of the two supplied cords.
The battery socket contains 7 Pogo-Pins to make contact with the bottom of the rechargeable battery.
The audio connector looks like the common 6-pin version of the U-229.
The manual mentions a modified version of the H-250 with p/n: 10075-1399. See: American MilSpec.
The internal speaker does not automatically mute when an external handset is connected.
3Vrms 600/1000 Ohm
15k to 3.3V
2.6 mVrms, 150 Ohm
Open drain <15V, <25mA, 115 Ohm sink
Electret Mike Bias
1k to 3.3V
PTT switch. Has speaker volume pot Lo to Hi. 2.5mm mono jack for optional external ear phone. Clip on back can rotate to 8 positions.
Fig 1 PTT on left side. Volume control in lower right corner. 6-pin connector.
Fig 2 Clip rotates with 45deg detents.
Mfg Date Code: 1041 (2010 Week #41?)
Fig 3 Earphone.
Part Number: 1100542-501
Desc: Earphone Kit R25
Fig 4 What are the round peg and round depression on the top for?
Uses Citadel (see: Crypto Museum, datasheet) which supports key lengths between 64 and 128 bits. I expect this was done so that the radio can be exported under Foreign Military Sales (Wiki: FMS) where U.S. encryption is not allowed to be exported.
Background on Side ConnectorsThe PRC-6725 (PRC-139, PRC-521) uses a 11 + 8 (19 contact) side connector.
The PRC-152 (Harris), PRC-117G (Harris, Wiki) & RF-310M-HH (Harris, Type 1 Suite B crypto) use a 16 + 16 (32 contact) side connector.
The MBITR PRC-148 uses a 9+9 (18 contact) side connector. The PRC-148 JEM (Thales, datasheet.jpg) says it's side connector has 22 contacts. The additional 4 contacts are near the mounting screw. The PRC-6809 (Thales, datasheet.pdf) is the exportable (non Type 1 Suite A crypto) version of the PRC-148. It only has 18 contacts on it's side connector. The RF-5800V-HH (Harris- UAE, Harris-Chile, Harris-Citadel™), Harris-Slovenia, Harris-Uzbekistan, Harris-International?, Harris- UK, Harris-SensorFusion-RF-5405) uses non Type 1 crypto and so is exportable without restriction.
It's interesting that Harris used a different side connector than on it's other radios for the RF-5800V-HH and that the configuration seems to match the MBITR/PRC-148. Why?
The RF-5800V-HH side connector pins are numbered:
Lower left=1 lower right = 3, upper left = 16, upper right = 18.
There are two locating pin positions for the MBITR PRC-148 and the RF-5800V-HH.
The RF-5800V-HH has the alignment pin hole is almost in line with the right hand column of contacts whereas the MBITR PRC-148 has the alignment pin in line with the center column of contacts.
This can be used for remote control operation, data devices, GPS or audio operations.
The Ports Programming process configures the ANC to match it's use.
PGM \ PORTS [ENT]
<-> REMOTE [ENT]
^-v ASYNC RATE , DATA BITS, STOP BITS, PARITY, FLOW CONTROL, ASYNC ECHO.
PGM \ PORTS [ENT]
<-> to scroll.
This cable connects a VDC-500 Data Controller (see: Satellite Communications description) with the MBITR PRC-148.
This is a 18 contact side connector arranged in two grids each 3x3. See Fig 4 below.
It came with the locating pin in the wrong position, but it's easy to move. After moving the locating pin it fits the RF-5800V-HH.
Maybe the RF-5800V-HH has a side connector that's compatible with the PRC-148?
PRC-148 (18 pin side connector)
CAGE 47358 (Viasat), 107660 Rev 002, ESAM 04/23/09
VDC-500 (Viasat Data Controller) 25 socket DB-15 connector (2 rows).
There is a switch on the radio end marked V (Voice) D (Data).
It's interesting that the pins on this cable seem to be:
1: Sig Gnd
14: Cable Sense
Next Which DB-15 pins?
Fig 6 ANC Pinout
This is a 32 contact side connector arranged in two grids each 4x4. See Fig 4 below.
Not only does this cable have the wrong number of contacts for the RF-5800V-HH, the "D" shaped locating pin is too large. See Fig 4 below.
To Handheld/VAA, Ancillary Connector, (32 pin side connector)
12041-7180-A006, Rev-, 01002093, 1006
To Computer, Serial (PPP), Connector (DB-9f)
Fig 1 The DB-9f connector mates to computer RS-232 ports like on the back of the CF28 Toughbook or the back of the CH30 Toughbook, not DAGR GPS ports which are 3-row DB-15.
Fig 1 RGU
Fig 5 the MA6795 cable is next to the RF-5800V-HH.
Fig 6 ANC Pinout
16: +9 - 14 VDC Switched 18 TxC
Designed to work with the PRC-148 (V)1 through (V)6.
Consists of the Remote w/GPS Unit (RGU p/n: 4101890-501), Four foot cable (p/n: 4101875-501) and a holster and two clips. This unit has the holster but neither of the clips.
The alignment pin is in a fixed position on the vertical centerline (center row of contacts) unlike the Harris Serial Programming Cable where the pin can be relocated.
It's interesting that the pins on this cable seem to be:
13: Rmt RxD 15: Rmt TxD
1: Sig Gnd
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Connects AN/PSN-11 GPS (PLGR or DAGR) device to a AN/PRC-148 Multiband Inter-Team Radio Set.
These typically adapt the military veheicle 24 VDC to whatever the radio needs and supply audio amplification so a loudspeaker can be used. Some of them also contain RF amplifiers to increase the talking range of a radio. The VVA needs to be installed on a mount.
VAA Base Mount Assemblyp/n: 12050-3710-02
While the VAA could be mounted in a vehicle, this mount is intended to be placed on a desk. It has rubber feet instead of shock mounts like would be on a vehicle mount.
The MT-1029 Radio Mount can be used for a large number of radios and radio + amplifier combinations. J21 on the MT-1029 looks the same as J1 and J2 on the Harris VAA Mount. All these are DC input connectors. Connectors for the MT-1029 are shown at: VRC-12 Cables.
The Mounts for SINCGARS radios are very similar to the MT-1029, but some of the cables are wired differently.
The Harris RF-5061 is a 12 VDC to 28 VDC converter that allows running military equipment from civilian vehicles.
The Harris RF-5051 power supply that runs off 85 to 265 VAC 47 to 400 Hz (worldwide AC) and provides 28 VDC output at up to 30 Amps.
This mount does not provide for a 28 VDC output to allow chaining multiple radios so it needs to be at the end of a chain of radios.
This mount does not provide an interface for Vehicle Interphone Communications like the VIC-1.
Fig 1 Front view
Fig 2 Rear View
RF In from handheld radio (requires TNCm to BNCm cable)
Seperate VHF and UHF outputs to antennas.
Fig 3 Front side view
Fig 4 Front w/RF-5800V-HH does fit
Provision for a padlock at the lower right.
Fig 5 Top - pins in bottom of radio socket
Fig 10 Back DC input connectors
Harris VAA Base Mont Assembly
Fig 11 VAA interface connector
Fig 12 Front with VAA and RF-5800V-HH
Fig 13 Back with VAA and RF-5800V-HH
This is just a place to keep track of possible items to order or have been ordered.
USB Adapter and Cable 12041-7227-01 - Fits the 18 contact side connector. The block has a USB-A socket.
Amplifier, Vehicular Adapter, p/n: 12053-0100-04, Mfr: 14304 (RF-7800V-V50X?, RF-300M-HV 102?, 10253-0100-09?)
Base mount Assy 12050-3710-02
KDU (Keyboard Display Unit) Adapter 12065-7100-02 - not sure of functions
IMITS Operators Training Manual CD 10515-0283-7200
RF-5932-CA001 Case Pouch
From Scott at American Mil Spec (PRC-152):
Harris special H-250 (SKU: mic-1937NOS) H-250/U Handset Harris modified 10075-1399 Falcon II and III PRC-150, PRC-138, PRC-152 etc.
IMITS CD SKU: man30S-4495 Harris AN/PRC-152HH IMITS Operators Training Manual CD 10515-0283-7200
set of 4 batteries SKU: batt30S-1185a QTY 4 Harris PRC-152 Handheld Lithium Batteries 12041-2100-02 Green, in good condition, ships charged, 14304
Serial programming cable SKU: cable30S-9716 Harris PRC-152 PPP Serial Programming Cable 12041-7180-A006 un-used
KDU adapter SKU: cable30S-8600 Harris KDU Adapter for PRC-152 etc. 12065-7100-02 un-used
Harris KDU Extension Cable 20 feet for PRC-150 PRC-117F RF-5800 10511-0704-040 new (cable30S-3288a,
6-socket connector, conn30S-6548 Harris KDU 6-pin mini connector for Falcon etc. S30F1S-P0TLCC0-4000 5935-01-563-1134
6-socket connector, conn30S-6549 Harris KDU 6-pin mini connector for Falcon etc. S30F1S-P0TLCC0-4000 5935-01-563-1134 with rubber cap
Fig 1 Overall
Fig 2 Controls
Fig 3 Battery Options
Left to Right:
Bottom of RF-5800V-HH
Thales 4101240-500 holds 12 ea CR123 batteries = 36 VDC (rubber on bottom)
Harris 12050-2005-01 holds 10 ea CR123 batteries = 30 VDC
Fig 4 ANCillary side connector (ANC) Note:
Top connector is for the MBITR PRC-148 DCC cable.
Bottom cable with 4x4 + 4x4 contacts is for the PRC-152 SPC.
Left: MBITR PRC-148 DCC cable
Right: Thales MA6795 Remote + GPS.
Note alignment pins and radio alignment hole.
Cable pin @ lower right is ground.
Fig 6 ANC Pinout
Note cable connector is flipped L-R from this.
Paint Ball Replica PRC-152.
Radio Operator's Handbook No. 10-33: Tactics, Techniques and Procedures
Operator tasks for:
EF Johnson 5100 ES Model 1 (EF Johnson 5100ES.pdf, may be replaced with Kenwood-Viking Radios)
ICOM IC-F43 Squad Radio - optional add on RedHawk GPS Speaker Mike (similar to Thales MA6795 Remote with GPS)
Advanced Systems Improvement Program (ASIP) SINCGARS Radio
Force XXI Enhanced Position and Location Reporting System (EPLRS)
MD-1324 UHF DAMA SATCOM modem
AN/PRC-104 HF Radio 2 - 30 MHz
AN/PRC-117F Multiband Radio 30 - 512 MHz
AN/PRC-117G Broadband Global Area Network Radio (Falcon III)
PRC-148 Multi Band Inter/Intra Team Radio (MBITR) 30- 512 MHz (18 contact side connector)
PRC-150(C) HF Radio 1.6 - 30 MHz
AN/PRC-152 Multiband Radio 30 - 512 MHz
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