This is the most modern military VHF Low Band FM radio I have as of December 2019. After receipt it was not at all clear that it would interoperate with older VHF Low Band FM radios, but after getting the operation manual I now see that this can be done. See top center photo where Tx and Rx frequencies are set to 51 MHz.
The PRC-152 (Wiki) is the U.S. version of this radio that contains voice and data encryption good up to TOP SECRET and so can not be exported and is not available on the commercial market. The RF-5800V-HH (Hand Held) uses Citadel (L3Harris) for voice and data encryption and so is exportable and is commercially available. This may be one of the radios held up in the Trump-Ukraine scandal (Wiki). See the message (apparently sent on August 26, 2019) on page 112 of the Dec 20, 2019 FOIA document release from the DOD obtained by Public Integrity.
Introduced in 2001 Harris Corporation Introduces Falcon(tm) II VHF Handheld Digital Radio. Sold to a number of foreign countries probably under FMS (Wiki), FMF (Wiki).
When I got the RF-5800V-HH radio I thought it was civilian version of the PRC-152 since it looks that way at a glance. But . . . the side connector is very different and not at all interchangeable. That means that any accessories that work with the side connector on the PRC-152 will NOT work on the RF-5800V-HH. See: Fig 4 comparing the side connector with a PRC-148 cable and a PRC-152 cable.
But . . . it appears at first glance that the side connector on the RF-5800V-HH is the same as on the MBITR PRC-148 (Wiki). See the Military Radio AN/PRC-148 (MBITR) Data Controller Cable. More work needs to be done to confirm this.
These web pages (PRC68.com) are named for the first handheld squad radio, the PRC-68, that replaces most of the functionality of the PRC-25 or PRC-77 manpack radios. The PRC-68 expanded into a family of handheld radios that all use the same battery and accessories.
The radios on this page replace not only the SINCGARS radios like the RT-1439 and RT-1523 manpack radios but also other radio systems that contain various cryptographic functions. Some also have low level network capability (messages & email but not video or large files). Some have two channels (the first two letters of SINCGARS stand for Single Channel) which allows some fancy things.
In a similar way this radio is part of a new family that all use a twist on battery, but there appears to be different side connector families.
There is a slight difference in how the U-229 audio connector works on the RF-5800V-HH in that the speaker does not automatically silence when an external speaker or headphone is connected.
This is the civilian version of the Harris PRC-152 Hand Held radio.Also see my PRC-152 paint ball replica radio.
The RF-310M-HH is the civilian version of the PRC-152. not the RF-5800V-HH. (Thanks to Eugene W2HX)
Frequency: 30 to 107.99999 MHz FM with deviation of 5, 6.5 or 8 kHz (so will not work as FM radio station). Note that many of the other radios that use the twist lock battery go to 512 MHz
It can be used to interoperate with the PRC-25, PRC-77 and the PRC-68 Family as well as pretty much any existing VHF Low Band FM military radio in addition to more modern radios like the SINCGARS family.
Some of the radios on this page are called Multi-Band meaning the cover two or more bands like VHF Low, VHF High, UHF FM, UHF AM. Some are called Multi-Channel.
The RF-5800V-HH radio antenna connection is a standard TNCm connector.
This radio came with:
13" rubber duck antenna marked: Thales, Ant, broadband BFT, 23386 10600500-2 and a
49" tape whip (including a goose neck base) marked: Thales, Antenna, Blade, 23386 1600629-1
The battery bar graph shows 100% when the voltage is 12.6 VDC. 80% is 12.2 VDC. There is no specified voltage range, but it's nominally a "12 Volt" radio.
The radio came with a Harris battery adapter that holds 10 each CR123 batteries. Marked: L123 Battery Holder, p/n: 12505-2005-01, m/n: RF-591-PS002
The RF-5800V-HH does NOT use a Hold Up Battery (HUB).
One of the earliest twist on hand held radio batteries may be the BB-521/U used on the PRC-521/PRC-6725/PRC-139. This was an eight cell Ni-MH battery so had a terminal voltage of 9.6 Volts.
These are rated for between 12 and 24 hours depending on mode and output power level.
The two mounting lugs are ground. The ring contact is +12.5V on a fully charged battery and drops to 10.8V when the battery is dead.
The center contact function is TBD.
The function of the charging contacts is TBD.
Fig 1 There are markings stamped into the plastic that are almost invisible.
The bottom charging contacts are not symmetrical about the centerline of the battery. But they have the same pattern, i.e. 2 contacts, space, 2 contacts.
The CH001 charger has 7 pogo-pin contacts.
Harris 12050-2005-01 (10 each CR123) Non-rechargeable Adapter
Holds 10 each CR123A or other CR123 family batteries. 3-1/2" high.
There are two strings of five cells combined with a diode OR gate.
So the terminal voltage is (5 * 3.1) - 0.6 = 14.9 V but that does not match the measured 13.6 V.
So, maybe there is a voltage regulator chip that drops the 5 series battery voltage of 15 to 16 V down to 13.6?
Do not crush, disassemble, reverse polarity or dispose of in fire. Do not attempt to charge.
L123 Battery Holder
CAGE: 14304, USA
WARNING - Do not mix battery types or chemistries.
Do not mix old and new batteries - dispose of batteries properly.
Thales 12050-2005-01 (12 each CR123) Non-rechargeable AdapterNSN: 6160-01-487-1151
Holds 12 each CR123A batteries. It's not clear how they are arranged.
Non-Rechargeable Battery Holder
23386 Assy: 4101240-501
Use DL123 Lithium Battery 3V
* Do not incinerate
* Do not expose to high heat
* Temperature 21 deg max
* Lithium battery dispose of properly
Harris 1250-2001-01 (16 each AA) Non-rechargeable Adapter
Holds 16 each AA batteries. This battery adapter is 5-3/4" high, much taller than all the other stand-alone battery options.
Maybe two strings of 8 series (8 * 1.5 V = 12 V).
Do not crush, dissemble, reverse polarity, or dispose of in fire.
Do not attempt to charge.
AA Battery Holder
Mfr: 14304 USA
Do not mix battery types or chemistry.
Do no mix old and new batteries.
Dispose of batteries properly.
McDowell Research MRC-41-1 BB-5590 Family Remote Adapter
This consists of two parts, the battery box and the adapter cable.
Fig 1 as received new condition
BoxA box that holds one each BA-5590 family battery. It has a BX07A8-3SW connector. The two "12 Volt" sides of the battery are probably wired in parallel for a nominal 12 VDC output. The Cable adapter is marked "12.0 V Nom. 5.0 A Max".
Chassis & Battery Gnd
A cable from the box to an adapter that has the bayonet connection that connects to the bottom of the radio. The battery box cable connector is the MS3116F8-3PW.
23386 p/n: 4101441-501 Rev: J
12.0 V Nom. 5.0 A Max Made in USA
s/n: 03023 THALES
Outer Ears: Ground
Can operate from AC mains or DC battery using one of the two supplied cords.
The battery socket contains 7 Pogo-Pins to make contact with the bottom of the rechargeable battery.
The audio connector looks like the common 6-pin version of the U-229.
modified version of the H-250 with p/n: 10075-1399. See: American MilSpec.
The internal speaker does not automatically mute when an external handset is connected.
3Vrms 600/1000 Ohm
15k to 3.3V
2.6 mVrms, 150 Ohm
Open drain <15V, <25mA, 115 Ohm sink
Electret Mike Bias
1k to 3.3V
H-250 is the most common handset currently in use. Like the H-250 this is a noise cancelling type which means the speakers lips need to be touching the mike in order to get normal sound. If the lips are a couple of inches away the sound will be very low or so soft as to be not heard.
Fig 1 PTT on left side. Volume control in lower right corner. 6-pin connector.
Fig 2 Clip rotates with 45deg detents.
Mfg Date Code: 1041 (2010 Week #41?)
Fig 3 Earphone.
Part Number: 1100542-501
Desc: Earphone Kit R25
This also works with the H-250VCEB
2.5mm mono plug.
Fig 4 What are the round peg and round depression on the top for?
Harris p/n: 10075-1399
984 Ohms C
Open 149 Ohms
Fig 1 NSN: 5965-01-463-7915
Handset, Modified Harris Corporation, p/n: 10075-1399, Qty 1 each
ASTM-D 5118, Complies with spec PPP-B-636L
Fig 2 Handset, Modified Harris Corporation, p/n: 10075-1399, Cont: 14304, Mfgr: IMJJ6, 06011
Uses Citadel (see: Crypto Museum, datasheet) which supports key lengths between 64 and 128 bits. I expect this was done so that the radio can be exported under Foreign Military Sales (Wiki: FMS) where U.S. encryption is not allowed to be exported.
This can be used for remote control operation, data devices, GPS or audio operations as well as the Vehicle Adapter.
The male connector has pogo pins and a male screw for mounting as well as a male alignment pin.
The female connector has flat gold plated circular contacts and a female threaded hole for mounting as well as a female hole for the alignment pin.
Background on Side Connectors
Following are the four side connectors for which I have radios, but there probably are more of them.
PRC-6725The PRC-6725 (PRC-139, PRC-521) uses a 11 + 8 (19 contact) side connector.
PRC-152 & PRC-117 * PRC-310The PRC-152 (Harris), PRC-117G (Harris, Wiki) & RF-310M-HH (Harris, Type 1 Suite B crypto) use a 16 + 16 (32 contact) side connector.
Amphenol 32 pin data connector - Cables, Adapters & Accessories.pdf -
MBITR PRC-148The MBITR PRC-148 uses a 9+9 (18 contact) side connector.
The MBITR PRC-148 JEM (Thales, datasheet.jpg) says it's side connector has 22 contacts. The additional 4 contacts are near the mounting screw.
The PRC-6809 (Thales, datasheet.pdf) is the exportable (non Type 1 Suite A crypto) version of the PRC-148. It only has 18 contacts on it's side connector.
RF-5800V-HHThe RF-5800V-HH (Harris- UAE, Harris-Chile, Harris-Citadel™), Harris-Slovenia, Harris-Uzbekistan, Harris-International?, Harris- UK, Harris-SensorFusion-RF-5405) uses non Type 1 crypto and so is exportable without restriction.
It's interesting that Harris used a different side connector than on it's other radios (PRC-152, PRC-310, PRC-117) for the RF-5800V-HH and that the mechanical pin locations match the MBITR/PRC-148, but the locating pins are different. Why? Let me know.
The RF-5800V-HH side connector pins are numbered:
Lower left=1 lower right = 3, upper left = 16, upper right = 18. See Fig 6 ANC pinout below
There are two locating pin positions one for the MBITR PRC-148 and a different one for the RF-5800V-HH. The pin diameters and shapes are also different.
The RF-5800V-HH alignment pin hole is almost in line with the right hand column of contacts whereas the MBITR PRC-148 has the alignment pin in line with the center column of contacts.
7 Feb 2020I was hoping that the RF-5800V-HH had the same ANC as the MBITR/PRC-148 but the testing of the Thales MBITR PRC-148 GPS Interface Cable showed up differences between the two ANC connectors. This means that while some of the contacts on the two connectors are the same some are also different. I expect that only cables which fit, including the locating pin, will work on either radio.
The Ports Programming process configures the ANC to match it's use.
PGM \ PORTS [ENT]
<-> REMOTE [ENT]
^-v ASYNC RATE , DATA BITS, STOP BITS, PARITY, FLOW CONTROL, ASYNC ECHO.
PGM \ PORTS [ENT]
<-> to scroll.
ANC 16+16 Side Cable Pigtail TE-32R-06 AN/PRC-117G J6 MIL Radio Cable RS-232,Etherne
t, Remote Control
This fits the RF-5800V-HH as well as various versions of the PRC-117. It has 16 + 16 = 32 contacts and the "D" shaped offset locating pin.
In as new condition.
This cable connects a VDC-500 Data Controller (see: Satellite Communications description) with the MBITR PRC-148.
This is a 18 contact side connector arranged in two grids each 3x3. See Fig 4 below.
It came with the locating pin in the MBITR position, but it's easy to move for the RF-5800V-HH.
After moving the locating pin it fits the RF-5800V-HH.
Maybe the RF-5800V-HH has a side connector that's compatible with the PRC-148 for this application?
PRC-148 (18 pin side connector)
CAGE 47358 (Viasat), 107660 Rev 002, ESAM 04/23/09
VDC-500 (Viasat Data Controller) 25 socket DB-15 connector (2 rows). (see Interfacing Radio and Crypto Devices to ViaSat Data Controllers, pg 8)
There is a switch on the radio end marked V (Voice) D (Data).
It's interesting that the pins on this cable seem to be:
1: Sig Gnd
14: Cable Sense
Cable End to End, see Fig 2 below.
The above table looks like a Null Modem (Wiki) adapter is needed to function with the RF-5800V-HH pinout.
This is to get pairs: RTS-CTS, TXD-RXD, but leave TXC/TSC - RxC.
Fig 5 lower right pin on both cables is ground.
Fig 6 ANC Pinout
Fig 3 Method of tracing cable wiring using DMM.
This is a 32 contact side connector arranged in two grids each 4x4. See Fig 4 below.
Not only does this cable have the wrong number of contacts for the RF-5800V-HH, the "D" shaped locating pin is too large. See Fig 4 below.
To Handheld/VAA, Ancillary Connector, (32 pin side connector)
12041-7180-A006, Rev-, 01002093, 1006
To Computer, Serial (PPP), Connector (DB-9f)
Fig 1 The DB-9f connector mates to computer RS-232 ports like on the back of the CF28 Toughbook or the back of the CH30 Toughbook, not DAGR GPS ports which are 3-row DB-15.
Mfr 14304 Harris Made in USA
The male Aux Connector is the PRC-152 16 + 16 = 32 contacts.
Keyboard Display Unit (KDU) connector has 7 male pins.
Data connector is a female 9+9=18 contact Aux Connector just like on the RF-5800V-HH.
Fig 3 Data side connector on PRC-152 KDU adapter is same as RF-5800V-HH side connector.
Fig 1 RGU
Fig 5 the MA6795 cable is next to the RF-5800V-HH.
16: +9 - 14 VDC Switched 18 TxC
Designed to work with the PRC-148 (V)1 through (V)6.
Consists of the Remote w/GPS Unit (RGU p/n: 4101890-501), Four foot cable (p/n: 4101875-501) and a holster and two clips. This unit has the holster but neither of the clips.
The alignment pin is in a fixed position on the vertical centerline (center row of contacts) unlike the Harris Serial Programming Cable where the pin can be relocated.
It's interesting that the pins on this cable seem to be:
13: Rmt RxD 15: Rmt TxD
1: Sig Gnd
eBay ad says "SF Tier1 DEVGRU"
Connects AN/PSN-11 GPS (PLGR or DAGR) device to a AN/PRC-148 Multiband Inter-Team Radio Set.
Fig 3 below shows the MBITR PRC-148 ANC pin numbering being the same as for the RF-5800V-HH shown in Fig 6 ANC pinout above.
Looking at radio ANC connector pin 1 is at lower left. increase to the right and then up.
Fig 1 Shown connected to DAGR PSN-13A
Note open connector J2 on DAGR is the same as J1.
Alignment pin is on centerline of 18 contact
ANCillary side connector (ANC), i.e. for MBITR.
Note both MBITR pogo-pin locations and along bottom are numbered. This gives some info on MBITR ANC pinout.
Fig 4 Black block has same orientation as looking
at radio for pin numbering.
NOT match RF-5800V-HH
1 PPS Time Mark In
RS-422B Data Out
RS-422A Data Out Grn 1
1 PPS Time Mark Out
Have Quick Out
Remote On False
RS-422B Data In
RS-422A Data In -
1 PPS Time Mark Out return
Ext Pgm Voltage
Serial Port Buffer Enable False
These typically adapt the military vehicle 24 VDC to whatever the radio needs and supply audio amplification so a loudspeaker can be used. Some of them also contain RF amplifiers to increase the talking range of a radio. The VVA needs to be installed on a mount.
VAA Base Mount Assemblyp/n: 12050-3710-02
While the VAA could be mounted in a vehicle, this mount is intended to be placed on a desk. It has rubber feet instead of shock mounts like would be on a vehicle mount.
The MT-1029 Radio Mount can be used for a large number of radios and radio + amplifier combinations. J21 on the MT-1029 looks the same as J1 and J2 on the Harris VAA Mount. All these are 4-pin DC input connectors. Connectors for the MT-1029 are shown at: VRC-12 Cables.
The Mounts for SINCGARS radios are very similar to the MT-1029, but some of the cables are wired differently.
Note that the VVA connector is a dual 4x4 for 32 contacts and the RF-5800V-HH radio has dual 3x3 contacts for 18 terminals!
This means that these are NOT directly compatible.
Note in Fig 4 and Fig 12 there is a gap because the connector does NOT mate.
The Harris RF-5061 is a 12 VDC to 28 VDC converter that allows running military equipment from civilian vehicles.
The Harris RF-5051 power supply that runs off 85 to 265 VAC 47 to 400 Hz (worldwide AC) and provides 28 VDC output at up to 30 Amps.
This mount does not provide for a 28 VDC output to allow chaining multiple radios so it needs to be at the end of a chain of radios.
This mount does not provide an interface for Vehicle Interphone Communications like the VIC-1.
Fig 1 Front view
Fig 2 Rear View
RF In from handheld radio (requires TNCm to BNCm cable)
Individual VHF and UHF outputs to antennas.
Fig 3 Front side view
Fig 4 Front w/RF-5800V-HH does fit
Provision for a padlock at the lower right.
Fig 5 Topview - note battery charging/power pins in bottom of radio socket
Fig 10 Back DC input connectors
Harris VAA Base Mont Assembly
Fig 11 VAA interface connector
Fig 12 Front with VAA and RF-5800V-HH
Fig 13 Back with VAA and RF-5800V-HH
This is just a place to keep track of possible items to order or have been ordered.
USB Adapter and Cable 12041-7227-01 - Fits the 18 contact side connector. The block has a USB-A socket.
Amplifier, Vehicular Adapter, p/n: 12053-0100-04, Mfr: 14304 (RF-7800V-V50X?, RF-300M-HV 102?, 10253-0100-09?)
Base mount Assy 12050-3710-02
KDU (Keyboard Display Unit) Adapter 12065-7100-02 - not sure of functions
IMITS Operators Training Manual CD 10515-0283-7200
RF-5932-CA001 Case Pouch
From Scott at American Mil Spec (PRC-152):
Harris special H-250 (SKU: mic-1937NOS) H-250/U Handset Harris modified 10075-1399 Falcon II and III PRC-150, PRC-138, PRC-152 etc.
IMITS CD SKU: man30S-4495 Harris AN/PRC-152HH IMITS Operators Training Manual CD 10515-0283-7200
set of 4 batteries SKU: batt30S-1185a QTY 4 Harris PRC-152 Handheld Lithium Batteries 12041-2100-02 Green, in good condition, ships charged, 14304
Serial programming cable SKU: cable30S-9716 Harris PRC-152 PPP Serial Programming Cable 12041-7180-A006 un-used
KDU adapter SKU: cable30S-8600 Harris KDU Adapter for PRC-152 etc. 12065-7100-02 un-used
Harris KDU Extension Cable 20 feet for PRC-150 PRC-117F RF-5800 10511-0704-040 new (cable30S-3288a,
6-socket connector, conn30S-6548 Harris KDU 6-pin mini connector for Falcon etc. S30F1S-P0TLCC0-4000 5935-01-563-1134
6-socket connector, conn30S-6549 Harris KDU 6-pin mini connector for Falcon etc. S30F1S-P0TLCC0-4000 5935-01-563-1134 with rubber cap
Got a couple of pages from the Thales manual for the subject radios.
There are two options for the audio connector. Either the NATO standard U-229 type or what they call the marine 10-pin audio connector (MKS-310-BCR). Here is a table relating these two:
Ext Audio -
Ext Audio +
Fig 1 Overall
Fig 2 Controls
Fig 3 Battery Options
Left to Right:
Bottom of RF-5800V-HH
Thales 4101240-500 holds 12 ea CR123 batteries = 36 VDC (rubber on bottom)
Harris 12050-2005-01 holds 10 ea CR123 batteries = 30 VDC
Fig 4 ANCillary side connector (ANC) Note:
Top connector is for the MBITR PRC-148 DCC cable.
Bottom cable with ( 4x4 + 4x4) 32contacts is for the PRC-152 SPC and will NOT fit RF-5800V-HH.
Left: MBITR PRC-148 DCC cable
Right: Thales MA6795 Remote + GPS.
Note alignment pins and radio alignment hole.
Cable pin @ lower right is ground.
Fig 6 ANC Pinout
Note cable connector is flipped L-R from this.
6353640 Reconfigurable radio frequency communication system, Harris Corp, Priority: 1997-11-03 - Patent Citations (84) -
7937076 Software defined radio for loading waveform components at runtime in a software communications architecture (SCA) framework, Harris, 2011-05-03 -
"A software defined radio includes a radio circuit and an executable radio software system operable with the radio circuit and conforming to the software communications architecture (SCA) specification. An operating environment is defined and includes a plurality of waveform components that are loaded when the radio circuit is initialized or a waveform component is instantiated, and reloaded at runtime after the waveform component is instantiated for transmitting and receiving voice data.". Mentions RF-58008074145 Memory system and related method using software-defined radio with write-protected, non-volatile memory, Harris Corp, 2011-12-06 - " This equipment could include RF5800, 5022, 7210, 5710, 5285 and PRC 117 and 138 series equipment and devices as non-limiting examples."
A number of the patent citations are related to clocks.
8116796B2 Multi-transceiver portable radio communications device and related method, Harris Corp, 2012-02-14 - metropolitan area network (MAN)
Paint Ball Replica PRC-152.
Radio Operator's Handbook No. 10-33: Tactics, Techniques and Procedures
Operator tasks for:
EF Johnson 5100 ES Model 1 (EF Johnson 5100ES.pdf, may be replaced with Kenwood-Viking Radios)
ICOM IC-F43 Squad Radio - optional add on RedHawk GPS Speaker Mike (similar to Thales MA6795 Remote with GPS)
Advanced Systems Improvement Program (ASIP) SINCGARS Radio
Force XXI Enhanced Position and Location Reporting System (EPLRS)
MD-1324 UHF DAMA SATCOM modem
AN/PRC-104 HF Radio 2 - 30 MHz
AN/PRC-117F Multiband Radio 30 - 512 MHz
AN/PRC-117G Broadband Global Area Network Radio (Falcon III)
PRC-148 Multi Band Inter/Intra Team Radio (MBITR) 30- 512 MHz (18 contact side connector)
PRC-150(C) HF Radio 1.6 - 30 MHz
AN/PRC-152 Multiband Radio 30 - 512 MHz
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